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DESIGNER:
Jeremy Wilson  
VENUE:
Criminal Records
Toronto
ON
Canada
 
SUBMITTED BY:
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message
2008-05-02 15:23:43
 
BANDS:
Tokyo Police Club



Tokyo Police Club Poster - Criminal Records, Toronto - Jeremy Wilson



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Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   con-tro-ver-sey!   2008-08-11 06:36:15
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   Classified bump.   2008-05-12 15:03:06
PapercutsSend Papercuts a message :   do japanese cops eat donuts?   2008-05-10 09:21:59
Baloney BoySend Baloney Boy a message :   They get together informally, about once a month, to swap old war stories about Godzilla, Mothra, and the like. More often than not, though, they get hung up on the particulars of Robert's Rules of Order & debates over the snack selections for next month's meeting.   2008-05-09 14:28:43
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   And why don't they like robots? Who doesn't like robots?
Seriously!
  2008-05-09 14:03:01
PapercutsSend Papercuts a message :   maybe its about one of their batons.   2008-05-09 13:07:33
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   Who are the Tokyo Police and why do they have a Club instead of a Force. It makes no sense.   2008-05-09 13:02:03
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   Dude. I'm gonna try and catch up, like "soonsies".   2008-05-09 12:40:34
Ruthless CowSend Ruthless Cow a message :   My next poster will be a herb trimpe swipe screenprinted in freshly murdered indian blood.   2008-05-09 12:40:18
Josh RickunSend Josh Rickun a message :   i need some more randy and chirpy   2008-05-09 11:51:27
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   I don't know... lifting isn't a fatal flaw. But as a rule, I at least try to swipe stuff that's so old and uncredited that it hasn't seen the light of day for fifty years. And even then, I usually totally redraw it and make significant changes.
Cool poster. Then eznd.
  2008-05-09 11:43:58
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   oh shut up, all of you.   2008-05-09 11:07:40
James flamesSend James flames a message :   "Swiping images is basically the foundation of gigposter history..." firstly, cow, that comment is completely wrong and mis-informed.
and besides, it's like me saying killing indians is the foundation of being an american, so why should i be accused of murder? it's just my "expression" and "homage" to my fore-fathers by killing this guy last night.
  2008-05-09 10:51:35
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   Actually, I had no idea who the illustrator was. I have a few pages of the comic in my "cool images" folder.
I still like bacon.
  2008-05-09 09:21:40
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   context   2008-05-09 08:17:34
jayryanSend jayryan a message :   would be improved if there were a fifth panel on the right with this image, appropriated appropriately:
http://www.touchandgorecords.com/bands/album.php?id=131
  2008-05-09 08:08:56
bastimagSend bastimag a message :   1. cool poster
2. not a supporter of 'reappropriation', no matter the artspeak or justification of it. i am unfamiliar with the comic, but not the illo style. i initially thought someone had 'reappropriated' the style, which is borderline but a useful tool. then i saw all of the arguments...now, sorry, but the poster looses something for me. and i know lichtenstien has made a career/fortune off of it, but he's a douche. a better salesman than artist. he doesn't even 'redraw' the image really. he traces off of slides. in his defense though (unfortunately) i believe when he started doing it, he was using iconic comics that people recognized but ones that were produced during the 'comic book factory' era and there wasn't nec. any one artist he could give credit to.
but all in all....see #1.
  2008-05-09 04:32:09
Ruthless CowSend Ruthless Cow a message :   Swiping images is basically the foundation of gigposter history, so I can't agree that it should never be done. I base what's fair game on my own terms and realistically the rules on this site won't ever be consistent because I think everyone else bases what's fair game on their terms.
In this case the artwork is altered enough, the image is old enough and identifiable enough that I think it's fair game.
Eichelburger swipes his contemporaries work taking credit and potential sales from his peers - Steranko doesn't even own the image on this poster. Again, it's just my opinion, but that makes a big difference.
  2008-05-09 02:18:24
FranciscoSend Francisco a message :   It's not the first time this has happened and it won't be the the last. Jeremy sourced the image and he is not making a bank roll off of it( I. The poster works for me. I think if he re-drew the image it would be a slam to the original.   2008-05-09 00:45:29
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   It was me who robbed the bank! I can keep the money because I admitted to it right?
In my book the age of the illo makes no difference. You take something that isn't your creation you need to credit the illustrator. This clearly an Eichelburger Flip horizontal.
After all these years I am still totally baffled by the ethics of this community and how shit gets justified. Totally baffled. There is little to no consistency to the logic. None. If somebody stole a design composition rather than an illo it would be bloody murder.
  2008-05-09 00:44:05
IVARTONSend IVARTON a message :   Another one of these huh?   2008-05-09 00:09:00
IVARTONSend IVARTON a message :   hOLY SHIT   2008-05-09 00:08:17
Ruthless CowSend Ruthless Cow a message :   If you look at the original image from the comic, Jeremy basically did what Lichtenstein did only digitally - and he did it to a 40 year-old image by an iconic artist. To me it is totally fair game - much more fair than what Lichtenstein did.   2008-05-08 23:54:43
Baloney BoySend Baloney Boy a message :   no, i don't know that one....was DK really a gay adult baby, though? the thought is overwhelming   2008-05-08 15:20:12
James flamesSend James flames a message :   haha, i gotta find that poster...   2008-05-08 15:08:17
James flamesSend James flames a message :   still missing the point completely...   2008-05-08 15:06:59
perkinsSend perkins a message :   Hey Baloney, you're not that guy that asked Rob Jones what kind of artist statement he was trying to make with his image of gay Don Knotts with his hand down his diaper, are you?   2008-05-08 15:06:05
Baloney BoySend Baloney Boy a message :   yeah sorta...but i also sorta mean it. kinda like how this poster is ironic - making fun of this cheesy comic -but also genuinely seems to respect comic art   2008-05-08 14:55:55
James flamesSend James flames a message :   hahaha, now i think baloney boy is just trying to start up some shit....nice try kid.
between bacon and bolaoney, i'm getting hungry. who's buying lunch?
"if credit's what matters, i'll take credit" - hot snakes
  2008-05-08 14:39:29
Baloney BoySend Baloney Boy a message :   credit, shmedit - who cares 'bout that? you might as well credit each viewer for constructing his/her own unique, imaginary narrative for the image upon seeing it   2008-05-08 14:24:13
John ASend John A a message :   now you're talking.   2008-05-08 14:21:55
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   I like bacon.   2008-05-08 14:11:36
James flamesSend James flames a message :   oops, sorry.   2008-05-08 14:05:52
James flamesSend James flames a message :   seriously guys - before everyone gets so friggin defensive, let's just focus on the main points: 1) it just woulda been cooler if it was re-drawn (THAT's what lichtenstein did) 2) if credit was given to the designer AND the printer on the poster itself, but not the illustrator, that's messed up.
you can intellectualize it all you want, and argue the "point" of gigposters in general, or even how well done the poster is overall (which again, i think is well-designed). but i'll say it again, if anyone used my illustration without my permission (especially if they got paid in using it), and didn't at least credit me, i would be truly pissed. anyone who wants to dispute how fucked up that is has either never had that happen to them, or never done anything worth stealing anyway.
and anyone who knows anything about steranko knows he probably wouldn't appreciate this.
  2008-05-08 14:05:13
seireyhoSend seireyho a message :   his own.   2008-05-08 14:04:01
John ASend John A a message :   "what, no #3?" - all threes everywhere.   2008-05-08 14:03:54
seireyhoSend seireyho a message :   whatever flames..he didn't try to front like this was hit own.   2008-05-08 14:03:46
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I'd be more impressed if you had recreated the image with multi-colored duct tape.   2008-05-08 14:03:16
getoutoftheleftlaneSend getoutoftheleftlane a message :   big words still scare me   2008-05-08 13:59:29
James flamesSend James flames a message :   seriously guys - before everyone gets so friggin defensive, let's just focus on the main points: 1) it just woulda been cooler if it was re-drawn (THAT's what lichtenstein did) 2) if credit was given to the designer AND the printer on the poster itself, but not the illustrator, that's messed up.
you can intellectualize it all you want, and argue the "point" of gigposters in general, or even how well done the poster is overall (which again, i think is well-designed). but i'll say it again, if anyone used my illustration without my permission (especially if they got paid in using it), and didn't at least credit me, i would be truly pissed. anyone who wants to dispute how fucked up that is has either never had that happen to them, or never done anything worth stealing anyway.
and anyone who knows anything about steranko knows he probably wouldn't appreciate this.
  2008-05-08 13:58:31
John ASend John A a message :   who no, no I haven't. Can I get a multipack of those?   2008-05-08 13:40:50
vastaghSend vastagh a message :   have you tried a hand held Swifter SweeperŽ, John?   2008-05-08 13:39:22
John ASend John A a message :   bump   2008-05-08 13:33:24
John ASend John A a message :   To test Victor's theory:
Can anyone recommend a good dusting cloth? I need one that is not damp or that I don't have to dampen as I need to dust/clean out drawers that will immediately then be closed and thus have no time to air dry.
Thanks for your time, John A
  2008-05-08 13:24:25
Baloney BoySend Baloney Boy a message :   c'mon, "decontextualized" goes with "rockposter" like burgundy goes with a steak! at least half of the posters on this site gain meaning by recontextualizing appropriated imagery. don't let the big words scare you.   2008-05-08 13:23:51
Josh RickunSend Josh Rickun a message :   what does "Good poster. Then end" really accomplish?
for me, that's what posters are about. accomplishing nothing besides looking cool, advertising a show, or used as merch type stuff. all that art school bullshit is for art school and crap that needs explaining. imo.
  2008-05-08 13:22:46
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   good poster. the end   2008-05-08 13:15:05
victor_howitzerSend victor_howitzer a message :   Does commenting on a poster have to accomplish anything?   2008-05-08 13:10:12
AndymacSend Andymac a message :   Decontextualized is not a word that goes well with 'rockposters'.   2008-05-08 13:10:05
vastaghSend vastagh a message :   back off John!!11!   2008-05-08 13:08:20
John ASend John A a message :   quit being so defensive baloney boy.   2008-05-08 13:06:50
Baloney BoySend Baloney Boy a message :   i'm not the one that brought it up! besides, what's the point of this site if not for a bunch of us dorks to get in cyber-arguments?sometimes you gotta use "art-speak" to make your point clearly - what does "Good poster. Then end" really accomplish?   2008-05-08 13:05:51
HrabovskySend Hrabovsky a message :   What a bunch of art-speak bologna. Good poster. Then end.   2008-05-08 12:59:06
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   the yawn heard 'round the world.   2008-05-08 12:49:11
Baloney BoySend Baloney Boy a message :   he pulled a Lichtenstein with this one, and Roy's the one that made the big bucks, not the comic book artist from whom he lifted. this is appropriation done in the best possible way - the narrative is actually enriched by being decontextualized & thus made ambiguous. the interpretive possibilities are endless, in contrast to the narrow & predictable story of the original comic. moreover, this usage (through distance, recontextualization) actually becomes a critique of the way that mass media informs (negatively, usually) sexual relations & defines gender identities. besides, the point is to make a compelling image (a thought-provoking one, to boot), not to impress other artists or worry about the niceties of intellectual property.   2008-05-08 12:46:10
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   I agree with John A   2008-05-08 09:40:59
bathroom monkeySend bathroom monkey a message :   ferg just spelled everything the right way, he must be serious   2008-05-08 09:32:53
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   let's get real serious about posters   2008-05-08 09:26:41
John ASend John A a message :   quit being so defensive.   2008-05-08 09:25:04
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   I totally agree it would be more impressive if I drew it. Just like it's more impressive when artists print their own work. 100% on side with that.
In this case my original design (which was completely original) was rejected and I had one day to come up with something, and remixing this image worked in the time line I had and fit the look the band wanted. I still spent 5 hours manipuating it from the original, moving the imagery around, etc. There is real design work in there.
I could go on about how the illustration is taken out of its context, blah blah blah, but that's the same tired argument we've had 80 billion times about artist vs. designer.
In my defense, I didn't "go out of my way to credit myself" as I put the same credit text I put on every single poster I do, and also I never once tried to pretend I did the illustrations, like some people try to do.
I am honest about where and when I appropriate images.
  2008-05-08 09:23:31
James flamesSend James flames a message :   yeah man, no hard feelings or anything. i'm just saying, if someone used my illustration to make a poster and put their name on it, and not mine, i'd probably be pretty pissed. i'm not discounting the work you did to make the poster, it's well designed. but you went out of your way to credit yourself and the printer on the poster, but never mention jim. and i don't mean to single you out, i know this happens very often. it's just my opinion, as a fellow illustrator. it WOULDA been cooler if you did draw this. and i happen to be a steranko fan, so this one really caught my eye. which is the whole idea, i guess.   2008-05-08 00:50:55
perkinsSend perkins a message :   I see your point but still...you have to admit that drawing it yourself garners a lot more respect. Regardless, I still think it's one of your best. I'd personally be much more impressed, though, if it was your art entirely. For whatever that's worth.   2008-05-07 16:02:16
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   If you think every poster with appropriated art on it needs to credit the original artist, most of the posters on this site will need to be relabeled.
It's not like I was hiding the fact - I'm the one who brought it up!
The panels have been changed around, cleaned up and have had the proportioned changed about, not to mention colours, so there's some design involved on my part in this.
  2008-05-07 14:31:57
perkinsSend perkins a message :   Not one of Steranko's finer moments.   2008-05-07 11:02:36
James flamesSend James flames a message :   so you didn't draw this? woulda been much cooler if you did, otherwise, sterranko should get the credit as the designer.   2008-05-07 11:01:53
seireyhoSend seireyho a message :   killer job on this. colors are rad.   2008-05-06 17:21:59
scott campbellSend scott campbell a message :   i'd like it better if you would've drawn in some tongue action   2008-05-06 17:00:05
Ruthless CowSend Ruthless Cow a message :   Oh cool - I know this comic. It's drawm by Steranko. It's a terrible story, but the sequences are pretty inventive and the colours are wild. I wouldn't call it the worst because it's so weird.
The panel you're talking about, the flowers and psychedelic nonsense right after this is pretty funny.
Great poster!
  2008-05-06 14:42:03
Baloney BoySend Baloney Boy a message :   broads dig that sorta thing, right? sweet poster, dude   2008-05-06 14:18:09
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   In the comic, he's this big time actor and she's part of a visiting class, and he just grabs her to demonstrate how to do a proper "movie kiss". Then there's hearts and flowers and shit and she's instantly in love with him.
She seems into it though!
  2008-05-06 14:02:24
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   You negative nellies. I see nothing but passion! This turned out nice, sir.   2008-05-06 11:31:42
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   she was asking for it.   2008-05-06 11:27:25
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   Yeah, this scenario has "date rape" written all over it.   2008-05-06 10:56:41
Josh RickunSend Josh Rickun a message :   the dude in it seems like a total asshole...look at how he's grabbing her...what a dick.   2008-05-06 10:50:08
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   nice jorb, fantasychode!   2008-05-06 10:29:42
ChopperSend Chopper a message :   Great Composition.   2008-05-06 10:18:26
mark@methanestudiosSend mark@methanestudios a message :   I love a good romance   2008-05-06 06:17:28
emo_forceSend emo_force a message :   This is a great concept and composition.   2008-05-06 01:13:35
Nicholas WilsonSend Nicholas Wilson a message :   for sale? pm me if it is.   2008-05-05 15:58:18
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   Thanks peeps! 19" x 25" 3 colour.
This is from what is possibly the worst romance comic ever, written by Stan Lee in the late 60's. It really is horrible.
Appropriating some of it for this poster has improved it immeasurably.
  2008-05-05 13:33:17
strawberrylunaSend strawberryluna a message :   i really dig this.   2008-05-05 12:04:29
perkinsSend perkins a message :   I think this is your best.   2008-05-05 11:54:56
jjwebsteSend jjwebste a message :   Cool.   2008-05-05 11:21:05
Matt McCrackenSend Matt McCracken a message :   nice one jeremy   2008-05-05 09:40:22
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   Can't resist.   2008-05-04 22:42:28
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   The next panel probably reads, "Women can resist the smell of Hai Karate."   2008-05-04 22:42:16
adam swinbourneSend adam swinbourne a message :   "oh babbee...we will make beautiful music togethair..."   2008-05-04 13:13:09
Mark McCormickSend Mark McCormick a message :   "You can guess what happens next."
"He fixes the cable?"
  2008-05-04 11:56:18
THE PiNCHSend THE PiNCH a message :   "I've come to fix your plumbing"   2008-05-04 11:54:41
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