The Meat Puppets are in my top 10 all time but there's very few people who listen to them I think. I saw them headline a show about a year ago in Houston and about 50 people showed up. The show was great and the band hasn't lost a step in my opinion. There was a Spinal Tap moment at the end of the set where they tried to exit the stage and realized that there was no backstage. They just kinda huddled around on the side of the stage, shrugged their shoulders and went back out to play a few more songs. Out of respect for who the Meat Puppets are and how long they've survived (30 years!) I'd like to see their name larger on the poster too, but I don't think they're much of a draw anymore.
agreed - its partly a product of trend and limited frame of reference. Just saying theres a number of ways to approach information on posters typographicaly. I think the end should somewhat justify the means - its up to the designer to deduce that.
you might be right hynes , stil i would find it odd that even if built to spill paid for this , that they wouldn't want to name of the band they have on tour with them to be visible , even if thier name would be smaller.
i might well be wrong , we mostly work with smaller bands that wanna spread the love.
i've personally been *very* uncomfortable to get posters for my own band with our name huge and the other bands tiny.
anyway , i have no beef with the designer . I'm just kinda puzzled that this way of displaying text seems to be so "in" lately".
Here's the thing: All posters should be designed with the exact same set of standards in mind whether or not they are to be used for merch, promotion, or anything else, no matter who commissioned it, where it takes place, or who makes it.
shouldnt the comissioning band get the prominent placement?
I know its probably not the case here but if Built to Spill paid to have this poster made and the meat puppets didnt why should they share similar prominence?
and before anyone says it - these are not advertisements. Think of them as a tshirt alternative at the merch booth.
Just another way of looking at it.
guilty of what?
putting the support bands and venue info in 8 pt type off on the side or bottom? no we've never done that.
have you even seen our posters?
call me crazy but i think meat puppets have draw and that should have been considered in the design.
On a poster, especially band posters wether for for merch or advertising, I think little type, type that's less important is meant to be seen as secondary. It's not ALWAYS lazy. These posters aren't meant to do the job of a billboard. If the image or layout is intriguing enough, the viewer will stop and discover the support acts, time, venue etc... Sorta like lots of Seripop posters, You really gotta stop and look at the thing before you even realize the headliner, let alone the secondary info. Not because the type is so small, but because the type usually blends into the image. Same subjective argument. It's no Helvetica, ya know?
for me it's less of a design issue than an issue that there is the idea of a hierchy of importance.
and EVERYTHING is less important that the headliner's name , including the date , venue ect.
i guess it's just a result of these posters mostly being used as merch and not as promo.
i just really don't how the supports bands (esp touring support bands) and show deets can be seen as so unimportant.
I go back and forth on support copy. Sometimes I work it in, sometimes I just add it on. Recently I've been adding it at the bottom. I don't think regular folks get as up in arms about not integrating your type as designer folks do. But I do agree, the Meat Puppets deserve more play.
this does have the feel of being designed by somebody who doesn't know anything about these two bands. they seemed to have just punned/played off the name of the headliner and quit at that. it could have had a lot more insight in the design.
dumping the meat puppets at the bottom is unpardonable, though.
support bands in tiny type on the bottom is my bigest pet peeve with posters .
esp when the support band is one with the importance of the meat puppets , they deserve some play too.
i dunno , it seems like a design cop-out to me to have the name of the headline band's name as the focus and everything else microscopic. it's like the other text is just being swept under the rug and not dealt with.
shouldn't part of being a good desinger be to incorporate all the text in a creative and dynamic way?
anyway , don't mean to beef on this poster/artist in particular.
it's just something i see on what seems like more than half the posters on gp and it really bothers me.
i did this same design back in about '90. it was for a play called "over the edge". it's almost identical, except the colors and the typeface.
so, it seems to be a rather easy concept to come up with, eh?
still, it looks pretty darn good here...