Mike - Sure, there's a long history of punk flyer appropriation. I wonder, though, what sort of recourse they would have had if there was a site like GP to have all the knowledgeable artists call out the ripper-offers back in the day. I bet most folks, like me, had not much of an idea who the original artist of this was. (Of course, the slap-together job of text and hearts makes it more obvious) Would the public know that it wasn't original? PRobably not necessarily. So an artist is much more susceptible to this type of criticism when they have posted their work to be examined by a group of their peers.
Plus, look at the dude's attitude/argument/defense. He's straight "Paul Gardner"-ing it. Deserves what he's getting.
MaximumFluoride gets it...too bad you others don't...shame. Again, punk flier none sold who cares! I also made one with old Masters Of the Universe art. You gonna cry about that to? Forgive me if i am incorrect in understanding that under poster details doesn't it say designer? Clearly not artist! You all need something better to do other than web based ego trippin and overreacting to a punk flier.
It's a shame when complete hacks steal really rad art. Stupid, too.
If you had "appropriated" some mediocre art to go along with your type, you might have gotten off unnoticed.
#1 where the hell is Paul Gardner...I dont think Ive seen a comments go over 200 and him not chime in.
#2 yeah Steel youve got 230 comments but half of that is you stupid.
#3 why do we keep feeding into this crap, who cares if the guys a hack. Waste of time.
Too late, Zach. The moment has passed. To summarize:
1. Dude ripped off the image
2. Dude got called out
3. Dude tried to defend his actions
4. Dude was called out more
5. Dude called out Jay Ryan
6. Hilarity ensued
7. Denny had a cyberfreakout
8. Robbie jumped in
9. The ladies of GP were level-headed and mature
10. Life went on... which is fitting, since apparently Steel Bridge = Corky
Yeah, Mister Jay "Never did no posters for nobody" Ryan, let's see YOUR work! Yeah!
I'm forming an internets gang. Me and Steal Bridge. Who else wants in?
(Also, Justin or whomever you are: Getting lots of comments doesn't really count is MOST OF THEM ARE FROM YOU).
oh, the stuff on GP isn't even close to the number i've done. about a tenth.
but this isn't about me. stop being a pussy.
what am i even arguing about anymore? matt woodson is a really talented draftsman. really really great. you stole his imagery. what's to discuss?
who are you, steel bridge? why are you hiding?
oh, the stuff on GP isn't even close to the number i've done. about a tenth.
but this isn't about me. stop being a pussy.
what am i even arguing about anymore? matt woodson is a really talented draftsman. really really great. you stole his imagery. what's to discuss?
who are you, steel bridge? why are you hiding?
In all seriousness, Clay's the only one who can make those decions, yo. I don't believe that the Terms of Use are being violated, so either ignore the inane parade or carry on. Don't forget to do your algebra homework!
oh, the stuff on GP isn't even close to the number i've done. about a tenth.
but this isn't about me. stop being a pussy.
what am i even arguing about anymore? matt woodson is a really talented draftsman. really really great. you stole his imagery. what's to discuss?
who are you, steel bridge? why are you hiding?
Will Steel Bridge provoke the newly appointed Mods into crossing the line?
Does the GP web gang have enough juice to put down someone who doesn't exist?
:nailbiter:
Steel Bridge : "lets see your fantastic posters?"
Girls in bathroom: "awwww naw he di'int!"
Leia: "ohmygod Tuffy, like that gloss is totally your color!"
Steel Bridge : "lets see your fantastic posters?"
Girls in bathroom: "awwww naw he di'int!"
Leia: "ohmygod Tuffy, like that gloss is totally your color!"
actually, the one matt woodson print on this site was printed by me, but then he landed a $50,000 perry ellis illustration job, skipped town, and never paid me for the printing.
Steel Bridge :"Funny how Jayryan, Phoondaddy, 3d glasses, B-droid, DRG, Dennyshmickle, and John A are all linked to each other..."
linked to each other? what does this mean? i have met DRG and john A, never even met the other guys. what does this have to do with anything, anyway? you stole someone else's drawing, got caught, and are taking the most pussified route out of the act. you don't get it.
You got caught out. Fess up and take your lumps. Your explanation of it as parody is ridiculous and makes you look even worse. An Homage is something original done in another person's style. A parody is an original piece that pokes fun, satirizes or ironically comments on another piece. Yours is neither an Homage or Parody. It's just lazy.
Funny how Jayryan, Phoondaddy, 3d glasses, B-droid, DRG, Dennyshmickle, and John A are all linked to each other...figures. Only "True Artists" start web gangs. Nice try Fellas. Work on posters not group think.
Agreed, this is fairly turdly. Actually, the original is cool, but this is teh lame. What I think I really don't understand is: This kind of blatant rip-off crap comes up every, what, six months or so? Some fool thinks he's going to get away with a little flip-horizontal, doesn't, and THEN GETS PISSY ABOUT IT! That's the part I don't get. What exactly is Justin defending? Can he POSSIBLY think this steaming pile of a poster has ANY merit?
So wait, you just did a flyer for a show using someone else's art, but yet you post it up here so you can have portfolio that you can send people to? And that's cool?!
Awesome. I'm gonna swipe some Burwell and Horkey stuff, and put it on my page for my portfolio.
Wow, this art stuff's pretty easy!!!
Designed by a man who doesn't even exist. Must remember that one for next time i screw up. "no no it wasn't me officer it was Everest Drozd and, my good fellow, he doesn't even exist"...fucking plum...
Well it looks like you click on bad posters...40 comments for a "bad one", weird. Thanks for checking it out, I guess you have bad taste. Would it be so difficult to find flaw in your own work. Lets just see what a good poster looks like...hmm
I had the "numb nuts" to call it Justin's own. I am not Justin. He doesn't exist. See DRG,post if you need more info. I believe it's called, Parody. "Parody-in contemporary usage, is a work created to mock, comment on, or poke fun at an original work, its subject, or author, by means of humorous or satirical imitation"
Look at the eyes...hearts, for what?...could it be the diamond that the word Drawback is attached to? Wouldn't it be great if that's what the motif was all about? If it was a humorous spin on the very serious and amazing painting made by Mr. Woodson? A Parody(Homage) by a Punk who is teasing at monetary greed by Americans. Well maybe it was...just ask Justin. Oh wait...he doesn't exist.
Look, what DRG is true, there is nothing wrong with taking an image and using it to promote a local gig. But, the thing is you claimed to have "designed" and "revealed something different" with this poster when you didn't, you just slapped some text on a really good illustration that you flipped horizontally, copied and pasted a skull, and added some hearts to....Then had the balls to call it your own design.
DRG,
1.For that very reason it was uploaded under Justin not Lucas. My work is under Lucas Andrews. Check it out if you like.See I didn't even get the credit.
2. I upload the posters not for acceptance or praise...but more so I have a online portfolio I can send people to. One place to see my posters and other people's posters.
3. I chose not to fix the thumb...I didn't want to...it reminded me of a break/chip in the mask rather than a thumb. I wasn't really designing for critics. The band was pleased and thats my number one goal. Again no reason besides a quick poster for a local show.
Is it "Whine"? Numb Nuts was it?
ah intelligence...hmm lets break it down shall we:
Wine- A drink "I wine a lot"(I drink a lot)
Whine- To bicker "I whine a lot"(I bicker a lot)
Pun- is a phrase that deliberately exploits confusion between similar-sounding words for humorous or rhetorical effect.
Shall I explain Sarcasm as well? I could...
The name at the bottom just links the posters or graphic design/layout work to each other...I would have signed the painting in paint if indeed I painted it...I did not for good reason.I did not paint it.
Wow, I hope this makes headlines!(note sarcasm)
I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with altering existing art to use as a poster for a local gig - if it get more people to the show, it's all good.
BUT, you didn't "just make a poster". You uploaded it to this site for all to see. 1) Over there on the left it says your name (I'm presuming) under the word DESIGNER, when you've not really designed anything here. 2) Don't be surprised when people pull you up on this after you knowingly uploaded the image to a public website which encourages comments and critique on peoples' work. 3) You could have at least fixed that thumb.
I just made a poster...thats all! Just a poster. The original painting was made by http://www.ghostco.org/ a very talented painter,and was altered by me for a local punk show...no credit needs to be sent my way, no posters were sold.
But thanks for the clarification. It's good to know that you were so tight with Pablo...He even gave you the inside scoop on his quotes. p.S. I do Wine a lot!
Picasso was talking about ideas, numb nuts, not going out and taking another artists work and calling it your own. And as for that last comment...you must whine a lot.
This isn't an "homage", sorry dude. An homage is something done or given in acknowledgment or consideration of the worth of another. All you did was mangle a guys artwork with photoshop.
Notice that Mr Woodson had two skeletons and himself...there is no boy here... It was based on his painting but altered to reveal something different. A homage not a rip!
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