It seems alot of talk went about over this.ART is Sex,Politic and Religion.Been that way for a few thousand years.I think this rocks and traded for one,chin up pal,like Jermaine said, it's great.I also have one of their albums,L P's ,it's rock n too
if i'd stop doin crap like buyin posters,(among other things) i might be able to afford it. couldn't help it at FS though. this bartending gig aint quite cuttin it anymore at my age.
dude..like ALL my money goes to the bikes. I pay rent, eat food and build the bikes. Theres a reason my wardrobe is shabby. But theres NOTHING better than fucking riding that shit around.
nothing.
Zappa-hold that boner baby cause I KNOW which piece your gonna take. heh.
yeah im halfway thru a 'fake' panhead. also a rigid. it's like a bored out Evo with some cylinders i had Axtell make and those Xotics heads. sweet streched and lowered frame, rigid. Got a hold of a White Bros drag racing front end...100 Inch..maybe 125 HP 6 speed. it's gonna rule. These guys in Socal made me a ton of 1-off parts for it to,,,it'll be ultra-sick.
I design the shit..it took a year to build. Guys downstairs did it. Came out SICK.
Chopped n bobbed old sckool rigid, all cables concealed in frame, custom milled shit to my specs out the ass, hydraulic Jockey shift, concealed throttle. sick. it's fucking hardcore looking. They bike is DONE we shoot it in 2 weeks. I documented the whole build and will run the build article and the 'glory shots' as well.
hangin n bangin.
The Horse-Back Street Choppers..used to be iron horse. I write for them all the time. I'll probably run 1 photo of myself.
I'm stoked..COVER BIKE!!!!!!!!
When I was a kid I used to read that shit....dream come true.
i'll probably buy it when it comes out just coz it's you and your stuff in teh art rock catalog around 92 is part of why I do this stuff these day. are you gonna be in the mag at all or not?
Hey Nolen-you'll LOVE this..in my most UNPC moment to date..I just found out my new Motorcycle is making the cover of a Chopper Magazine and I got 2 fine-assed Strippers to pose on it.
OINK OINK OINK OINK.
actually, I keep a little JuJu bag in it. I'm confused as to what religion is real, so I got like most of them covered at home with various shrines and whatnot. Offer sacrifices every so often. can't be too careful, got to hedge my bets. The skull I got from my buddy Igor who got it from Lydia Lunch who supposedlly swiped it from a tomb when she lived in New Orleans. It's a womans skull.
my Danzig story...came to my house to buy toys and him and J Only crawled around my living room floor playing with the toys and making 'battle sounds'.
in 'full regalia' no less.
I make fun of all the bands I like. it s my way of expressing love.
On Danzig, I had ice cream with him years ago.. I was working a temp job for a lighting and sound co. We set up his show. H ewas hangin around and I went up and started talking.. he was a very cool dude.. So I liek , hey bro, you want some ice cream? He was like, yeah cool lets go.. So we went to Marble Slab and I bought Danzig an ice cream cone.. It was beautiful.. We both just stood there lickin our ice creams.. too fun..
hey we're still talking about PC stuff?! what.. no one is gonna take me up on my naked overweight chimpanzee offer? my face with a chimp body-- that'll sell you some posters. ps. is Dr. Phil really accused of molestation? for real??
what good is a band if you can't enjoy the absurdity of a live performance? I make fun of all bands even the ones I like. We are all teeny tiny worms under jehovahs baleful gaze.
you shouldn't apologize for what you did Justin. It's unlikely that you made an effort to offend the band or they're fanbase. Move on, chalk it up to experience that some genres dictate certain boundaries in the ways of promotion and image. How many bands have you pissed off with your posters? Very few I'm sure. Don't sweat the small stuff.
The more the band and (some of) their fans complain...the more attention on you. At the end of the day all of their fans will have seen your poster. Some people will be hip to what you're doing and may take an interest in what you do. I'm sure that a bunch of people have been turned on to your work through this. In this case any press is good.
Also...the people on GP for and against this poster aren't your audience. We make more posters than we buy. If you're selling steadily and paying the rent, that's all that matters.
Capt.
the ltd color is in reference to previous posters Hampton's done.
say one more thing about danzig, and i'll come to philly and kick your ass about two months early, bitch!!! you've been listening to too much dead...take a shower!
i predicted a shit storm would hit when i commented. and here it is.
curious...would you have a problem with the band saying on stage "who did this rocking poster?! it rules!" or shoudl they save that for backstage/post-show chit chat as well? plus, it's their portraits on there... it's their right ot voice their opinion on it.
Oh, and i dont blame anyone for there not being vegan stuff on teh menu at the restaurant, I just avoid those places. Vegan people like that bug me as well.
I was gonna say something else but it's been said before on the site I think so I wont repeat it.
Don't you know by now that everyone is a fucking victim? My parents fucked me up, my government fucked me up, my friends fucked me up my shrink fucked me up so now I have a new shrink to fuck me up, my boss fucked me over, my ex fucked me up so now I can't love, WAAAAAAAhwaaaaah wah
i dont even like sleater-kinney, nor anyone in their ilk, i dunno what the hell im arguing about. i guess i want somebody to make aposter for a band with the lead singer equiped with near nothing.
I hate GnR so I hope he actually does have a wee willie.
But at least axel is more amusing than some dork paddling around in a threadbare sweater being afraid of it's own shadow. 'PC' rockers are EVERY BIT as egotistical and fucked as 'asshole rockers' plus even more fucked cause they are such fucking hypocrites about it all.
ugh. puke. belch.
plus most of them can't play worth shit.
MY UTTER HATRED of the phenomena of ViktimRock knows no bounds.
They are having fun, fun making everyone around them miserable. It's like catholosism for the granola crowd. How much bullshit quilt can we impose on the world weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
the WORST thing about fucking PC Loser schlock is the eternal misery of it. EVERYTHING is like, a problem. A Threat. It's everyone ELSES fault...it's a non-vegan menu, I cannot eat. waah waaaah waaaah.
I mean c'mon allready. Have some fun, be a human. Jesus.
sleater kinney feeds the fantasies of lesbos and nerdy clerk boys.
'sensitive empowered womyn' is a schtick like any other. They get mileage out of 'negative sex appeal'. I know Slim Moon and the 'inside story' of all that NW Kill Rock Stars type of shit and it's pure bs.
sex symbols for the 'loser' crowd.
boring and irritating. The poster is Ok, totally does not suit the gimmick, and thats fine with me. It's all that fake 'important' pc CRAP. that bugs me.
Roxy Epoxy..now THATS a female ROCK STAR.
I think if a chick had done the same poster they would have been totally into it. PC crap is what they were spewing. Justin drew it so it objectifies them.
if someone made a poster with my image on it they could stick my head on the naked body of an overweight ape and i'd still be sort of delighted. sounds like these women are totally jaded.
I think it's a nice poster, and the band should have researched the work of the artist before agreeing to have something made.
However, I agree with Nolen that the image is not entirely appropriate for the band.
Big boobs on posters bore me. Personal preference.
*Yawn...
of course no one took into account that shiva has a rockin body and has always been depicted that way. sure, extra arms and that creepy eye thing but a great rack and a bitchin' booty.
If you're a chick and your names not Lita Ford or Joan Jett you probably aren't rocking.
On a serious note I am not actually this sexist. It's just part of my schtick.
You know if had drawn them as they are,they would have bitched about that too. They may not have said it on stage to the minions but in the bus it would've been "oh my god he drew us all chubby."
I obviously used the wrong image for them. It was something I had been wanting to do for a little while, it would have worked better for a band like Veruca Salt back in the day. I was in a rush to pull something off fast before Flatstock and didn't think it through all the way. Oh well, so it goes.
Thanks for the props Ewing.
Michael you foolish man...it's not the music that counts. It's not the politics. It's not ideals. It's tits.
Just joking of course...I agree with what you said.
The way I see it is if you made the breastesses even bigger then even more dudes would wanna go see their sub par rock band. Maybe they should consider tit jobs to increase their male audience.
cool poster justin, but ive told you that already...
wanna hurt a fucking band.. i hate when they slam a poster.. when their promo stuff sucks ass...
EVERYONE in the community says "no more posters for you" then they wonder the next tour why no posters are being done... and then they regret being jerks to people who spent time promoting their ass...
know tons of artists who wont touch doing a poster for certain assholes... its great!
Yeah. I can see where the band would not like the poster. It basically portrays the unobtainable female image that they seem to be against. It just makes it look like you knew there were 3 girls in the band but had never really paid attention to what they're saying.
It's a fine illustration, and a nice poster...just not for Sleater Kinney. Maybe for a girl band that uses their double D's to sell their music.
Justin... you kill when it comes to spotting blacks.
I like the design, it's well-balanced and the split fountain helps lead the viewer from top to bottom.
Great job on the likenesses. I could tell who the band was before reading the name. Likenesses are tough and people (aside from the artist) scrutinize over them.
Regarding the band...they did you a nice compliment. Whenever someone censors/bashes something they always bite themselves in the ass by showing the censored/bashed image or by informing people where to find it.
So..for the less offended of their fans, they'll seek out the poster. It's more advertising for you.
My only gripe is that the stroke on the "sleater-kinney" could have been a bit fatter.
Other than that, you're a master of limited color.
I agree with Decker on the fact that if thay had a problem with it is fine, but they should have asked for it to not be up and for sale at the show and not slam it on the mic in front of a sold out show full of "riot girls". Ya can't please everyone, I'm over it and the poster is well on it's way to selling out....next.
I think the band wasn't out of line and shouldnt' be asked to check anythign at teh door, since it is their faces on there. You didnt' draw them like the carwash girl from cool hand luke, but you did give them a blown out barbie doll body...that's not like theirs or shiva's. The concept IS cool, but it's just the way you executed it. I'm not trying to say "make posters serious"... just appropriate.
I'm not trying to be rude or anything... just saying I can see where they're coming from and explaining how. I'm not trying to slander you or anything.
Like I said...the art is well done and the layout and colors are cool. The metal thing makes sense now and is funny, thanks for explaining that.
I don't have a problem with the band not liking it due their politics, but too give Hampton the green light then bash him on stage is fucked up.
if they had issues and many I'm sure, then they should have taken the time to say something to him not to a club full of Grrrrrrls
Nolen, true you are a PC art fag, but politics aside, is it too much for people to groove on the art and check their personal diatribes at the door. It's art for crying out loud. I know their politics and I'd definitely understand if I'd drawn them all a a bunch of gussies with low cut shirts bending over washing a car or something, but I made them a punk rock shiva! I've gotten tons of compliments on the concept. The "Metal" thing was an idea that was given to me by a personal friend of thiers as something that they would think was funny, due to the Rollingstone review that said they had have a metal edge. Y'know it's just a freaking poster, life doesn't have to be so serious.
it's a good illustration and composition etc. but to bring up the much-maligned topic (on this website) of appropriateness. It's not so rockin'. But other than that... it's a nice job.
i agree with you, nolen. i don't really care for the band, but i think representing these particular ladies with comic book boobies and barbie doll waists isn't exactly the best direction someone could've taken. i think the shiva idea could've worked if it had been based off an actual old painting or something. it may have been more accepted by the band, anyway. maybe hampton's style veered the idea a little too far into "hot chick/object" territory for sensitive grrrrls and womyn.
haha here comes me the PC kneejerk leftist wimpy jerk or whatever you wanna say, but I had the same problems as teh band apparently did with this.
I can see, sure, what you did, making them into the goddess shiva, but...to put their heads on it..portraits...with that body...and you had to have known the politics of the band...
I think you're a talented artist, but this one just bugs me.
But again I'm the art school fag PC-fascist etc. etc. that I've been called before...so take taht with a grain of salt I guess.
also..her shirt says metal?
oh , and kozik, if 3 fat dudes played their music I'd still love it, but I have yet to hear a guy who can match her amazing warbly squall of a voice.
fuck those cunts. only reason they sell records is because they are 'semi cute' girls. if it was 3 fat dudes up there doing the exact same material no one would give fuck.
I had two friends of mine sell this one at a merch table for me at the Sleater show in Seattle at the Showbox while I was at Flatstock in SF. The band approved it being sold at the show by my name alone and didn't see it until the day of the show. I guess they didn't like it at all as my friend Ken told me they openly slammed it on the microphone during thier set. He sank in his chair as the largely lesbian crowd was told: "There's a poster in the front room by a local artist that has us with double D boobs and the body of Angelina Jolie. If you want a poster that really looks like us, we have one for sale at our table(a photo promo poster)."
Ken leaned over to my frined Mike and said "Uh-oh, this could get ugly." They feared for thier lives for a minute and considered dashing out of the club, but it subsided without incident and just got passersby saying to each other "that's the poster they're talking about."
They still sold really well. I think it's strange that they would have seen the poster before the show and not have asked for it to not be sold if they hated it that much. Weird. It's them as a Punk Rock Shiva, it's not literal at all. I apparently upset the "Riot girl" ethic. Oh well, people have really been digging it and it's on it's way to selling out already. You can't make everyone happy I guess. Whatever.
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