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DESIGNER:
Mark Arminski  
VENUE:
Hill Auditorium
Ann Arbor
MI
USA
 
SUBMITTED BY:
Mark Arminski  
2001-02-09 19:30:12
 
BANDS:
Patti Smith
Natalie Merchant
Lenny Kaye
Gyuto Monks



Patti Smith Poster - Hill Auditorium, Ann Arbor - Mark Arminski



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standardSend standard a message :   You see, your 'world' is dead.
Who's Mark Arminski again?
  2003-09-26 16:03:25
newseamusSend newseamus a message :   Whew...christ...that is a good thread...most of it was over my head...but very entertaining.   2003-09-26 15:25:02
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i just read it again. :dance:   2003-09-26 14:44:31
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Classic Gigposters...this is one for the highight reels.   2003-09-26 14:40:51
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i call him jerry.   2003-09-26 14:11:40
PlantweedSend Plantweed a message :   Funny thread.   2003-09-26 14:07:08
standardSend standard a message :   i don't really pay much attention to other people's work. keeps me young and sparky.
well, that and Clinique Anti-Gravity Firming Lift Cream.
  2002-09-17 13:29:55
JGexSend JGex a message :   Damnit, where is that little rolling eye icon?
This really is rather silly, guys.
And Standard, puh-leaze tell me you know who Arminski is.
  2002-09-17 12:52:03
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   It's weird. That bear Jermaine drew looks like Allen Ginsberg. And he changed his name to mark Arminski?   2002-09-17 11:01:22
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   i'm late to the meeting. I LIKE JERMAINE'S BEARS. i'm intrigued by the story, or what little of it i've been privy to. it makes me antictipate his new posters coming out. i'm really inarticulate today, and there's alot more that i can say about this, and maybe later after lunch, i just might. but this argument has nothing to do with talent or ideas. i'm not entertained, but as i told jermaine-who am i?   2002-09-17 10:57:49
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   ha! This relationship is 'abusive'.
Later Mr. Chantry... Ive got work to do. 2 years aint a long time...and Ive gotta make all the jack I can before I completely hit rock bottom. Please, visit my site and buy something. Half-price to you.
i love you...
  2002-09-17 10:54:02
standardSend standard a message :   it's how some relationships go.   2002-09-17 10:51:19
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   pretty stupid game, huh?   2002-09-17 10:50:40
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   'cept Chantry's prettier.
'Bedroom eyes'
  2002-09-17 10:49:36
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   yup.   2002-09-17 10:48:52
standardSend standard a message :   anyone ever go out with that type of girl where you're talking on the phone and she doesn't say "goodbye" and you're all like "i'm hanging up" but then you don't and you're all like "YOU hang up!" but she's all like "I'm not hanging up! YOU hang up!"??
this is like that except less suffocating and more entertaining.
  2002-09-17 10:48:05
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   heh.   2002-09-17 10:48:02
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   LOL!   2002-09-17 10:47:05
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   clever.   2002-09-17 10:45:54
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   heh.
Its easy.
Dont reply. lol. Gotta get that last word in. Everyone was right about you, old boy. Youre E-A-S-Y.
  2002-09-17 10:45:06
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   fine by me. i've been trying to.   2002-09-17 10:43:32
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Art, let THAT goodbye be the last. Youre boring now.
Some of the things you said to me in private: I could post those and make you look more foolish than you let on here.
So do us a favor and drop it.
  2002-09-17 10:41:45
kevin jonesSend kevin jones a message :   fucking damnit! i dont mean to butt-in here, but this shit is just getting stupid and immature. there is WAY too much name calling and internet bashing going on here at gigposters. it needs to stop. until you two, or anyone else that wants to argue, meets each other face to face, may i suggest that you not assume the character of others and certainly, dont bring it to these forums. If you are going to bicker and degrade each other, do it in person. Its fucking embarrassing. Grow up guys, please. I got love for both yall.   2002-09-17 10:39:04
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   jermaine -
please re-read my last post. someday you are going to be very embarrassed you ever wrote that.
good bye, again.
  2002-09-17 10:38:36
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Art, thats SO funny. You see, your 'world' is dead. There are things happening in this movement that you never saw. Youre uncomfortable with 'change'. You feel yourself slipping away. Things are 'progressing', and rather than jump in with 2 feet like KOZIK, you stand on your rusty pedestal and preach the gospel according to Popular Mechanics. I know. I threaten you. And dude, I may fade away quicker than you think. But this isnt my LIFE like it has been yours. Ive got friends, family, people who love and respect me for who I am, not what I can 'do'...which aint much...as Im sure you and the 'phantom jermaine haters' would agree. See, you sacrificed all that in exchange for the work. THAT was your mistake. You left PEOPLE trampled underfoot. Im not making that up...or going on what Ive read...no...Ive met several of the PEOPLE themselves.
But theyre just 'weak'...right?
Understand this: we never were 'friends'. I dont LIKE you. I think youre self-destructive and destructive in this movement. I think you hurt more than you help...and its a shame, because youre smart. I take on this persona when Im dealing with you, cause you dont understand 'reason' or 'kindness' or 'logic'. When you are confronted with 'truth' you disappear. Its old. This 'kid' has you deciphered. Everything Ive been told about you by the old-timers...dude, youve played true to form.
Oh yea, if Im not around in 2 years, Ill send you a teddy bear poster 'on the house'. Wont hurt me, really...they'll be worthless...right?
So much you could do and say to help... SAD.
  2002-09-17 10:36:22
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   i know how clever you think you are. that's enough for me. and i know EXACTLY what people think about me - i created that, remember?
jermaine, like i said, you're a fool. in a couple of years your going to remember this stupid little confrontation and you're going to to understand what i meant.
good bye.
  2002-09-17 10:28:34
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   heh...
I thought so.
  2002-09-17 10:26:38
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   by the way, I read the following...and its kinda spooky:
" you may think you're pretty hot stuff - some sort of superstar fella - but it's all in your head. i've spent many a private conversation defending your stupid arrogant attitude to people who wanted to know what your problem was. you are not as respected as you seem to assume you are, in fact a lot of people laugh at you behind your back. "
Like, um...Chantry? You DO know how people feel about you, right? Please produce these legions of folks who hate me. I COULD produce a legion of my friends...on THIS board...many of whom wish you would just fade away, as you seem determined to do with your suicidal behaviour...career-speaking. Yea, dont bring others into this, cause you WONT win there, pal. MANY folks hate you, and you KNOW this.
  2002-09-17 10:25:47
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   jermaine -
you've got a lot to learn, and you are going to be very lonely learning it. good luck to you and stay out of my way.
  2002-09-17 10:23:33
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   whos arminski? boy come over here and let me spank you!   2002-09-17 10:22:10
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   YEOWCH!
and he strikes back! AND he brings up BEARS!!!
Oh well, I guess our little truce has gone the way of the dust. Youre so EASY.
And please, dont defend me. I need a certain amount of 'detractors' to feel 'legitimate'. I mean, YOURE a 'real' artist...and youve got TONS. Right, granpa? And if you feel you wanna start ripping me up, go for it old man. See, Im pathetic in the sense that I can go on and on. So all you secret Jermaine haters, JOIN the party!
But hey, by your own words, Im just a kid...so I aint expected to know any better. You, on the other hand...well...hmmmm...
heh.
My next teddy bear will be dedicated to you. Ill draw him, then run him though a xerox 10 times.
Then it'll be 'art'!
  2002-09-17 10:21:31
standardSend standard a message :   perhaps for the sake of whoever Mark Arminski is, you two should just exchange phone numbers.
maybe Clay should start a "Knock the Piss Out of Each Other" forum.
I was just looking at the poster and noticed that Allen Ginsberg was dead. Hmmm. Too bad.
  2002-09-17 10:19:14
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   uh.....
jerry, i don't know who you think you are, but with that last post you've officially lost any friendship you may ever have had with me. if you want nasty, i think i could cut you into pieces with a few well-chosen words. you may think you're pretty hot stuff - some sort of superstar fella - but it's all in your head. i've spent many a private conversation defending your stupid arrogant attitude to people who wanted to know what your problem was. you are not as respected as you seem to assume you are, in fact a lot of people laugh at you behind your back.
so, watch it fella. you'll find no more defense from me.
ps - look up the word 'sycophant'.
ppss - and your bear thing was clever for about three posters. if you don't dump that rut soon, you may live to regret it.
  2002-09-17 10:13:10
dustin wallaceSend dustin wallace a message :   chocolate rainbows!   2002-09-17 10:11:14
standardSend standard a message :   CHOCOLATE SHAKES!   2002-09-17 10:10:18
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   ginsberg is cute. i bet arminski didnt know all this stuff would go under his poster!   2002-09-17 10:07:40
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   heh...So you picked up on that, Mr Chantry? Now, now..remember, sometimes I can purposely be that way...just to be 'cute' (I know- it doesnt work). But we agreed to be 'nice' to each other, remember? Yesterday, you got a little 'not nice'...and if you dont honor the deal, then all bets are off.
And I can be SO annoying if Im pushed.
So lets be nice. Its better that way. Believe me, some things you say actually annoy me too...like that whole 'whose book should you do' dilemna.
But I was nice. Happy and nice. Like puppy dogs, rainbows, and chocolate shakes. :)
  2002-09-17 10:03:11
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   and frank -
if william burroughs was born maybe 20 years earlier, he could have been albert fish.
  2002-09-17 07:38:06
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   jerry -
i think what you say is true, especially if exactly what you are doing is trying to be smug and self-impressed.
  2002-09-17 07:35:53
eviltikiSend eviltiki a message :   oh man, you wanna talk about torture is my mothers obsession with ms. nazi-lee merchant. If there is a cd playing in the house and it isn't mine, it's her.
  2002-09-16 21:13:11
eviltikiSend eviltiki a message :   oh man, you wanna talk about torture is my mothers obsession with ms. nazi-lee merchant. If there is a cd playing in the house and it isn't mine, it's her.
  2002-09-16 21:11:27
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   and yet you still talk to me, Chantry. Makes me feel awful special: I ignore kids. You should do it: it works.
Maybe...just maybe...I know exactly what Im doing...and that could be a bit cruel.
Wouldnt it, Frank daddy?
  2002-09-16 20:43:41
kozikSend kozik a message :   oh..and by the way...WE prefer to be called
UTENSIL -Americans.
Thank you very much.
  2002-09-16 18:57:27
kozikSend kozik a message :   when have I ever condensed anyone?
You toad.
  2002-09-16 18:49:09
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   well, i hope i don't sound that way. i just feel like i'm talking to a kid most of thew time when i'm talking to jerry. maybe it gets a little peeved sounding.
but the idea of frank kozik accusing me of sneering condescention is pretty funny. i gotta laugh at the pot calling the kettle black.
  2002-09-16 18:48:01
kozikSend kozik a message :   condensation?
fucking Spoonerite am I.....
  2002-09-16 18:44:41
kozikSend kozik a message :   not rancor..more like sneering condescencion. is that spelled right? I swear I have Spongiform Enchephilitis........   2002-09-16 18:42:29
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   vengeful? gee, i don't feel vengeful. perhaps you're mistaking my charming sense of humor for rancor?   2002-09-16 18:41:14
kozikSend kozik a message :   you can always Go Greyhound.   2002-09-16 18:40:44
kozikSend kozik a message :   I know why...but you seem to be especially vengeful.
you are both slippery little eels.
I like to catch and roast your lil eely oily booties.
you need to drag your sad sack out here for Fagschlock dude.
  2002-09-16 18:36:56
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   i don't hate jerry. i rather enjoy talking to him. he's a great guy.
but the stuff he posts here pretty consistantly annoys me. i know exactly why, but it would be lame to go into it here.
  2002-09-16 18:34:47
kozikSend kozik a message :   Hey man, just cause MLK liked a little cream in his coffee....
Art-why do you HATE Jermanicus so much?
Is it 'sexual fear'.?
  2002-09-16 18:32:39
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   jerry -
judging people of the past by todays standards is still pretty stupid if you ask me. that would make gandhi a bigot. that would make henry the 8th sexist, that would make, hell, that would make martin luther king sexist. that's all a pretty crappy (and dare i say blindly 'pc') way to view the existance of man. history is an examination of change, not a place of judgement. observe and learn, but don't judge and dismiss.
  2002-09-16 18:29:33
kozikSend kozik a message :   Pony time....about seven.   2002-09-16 17:04:13
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Sweet! What time do I show up?   2002-09-16 17:02:56
kozikSend kozik a message :   of course. and a big screen tv too.   2002-09-16 17:01:31
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Can I have a gameboy?   2002-09-16 17:00:07
standardSend standard a message :   Oh, what's the matter here?   2002-09-16 16:59:45
kozikSend kozik a message :   it's Ok richie..your area behind the window is sound -proofed.   2002-09-16 16:58:58
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Natalie Merchant? why the fuck am I being tortured too?   2002-09-16 16:57:21
kozikSend kozik a message :   your ancestors never saw richie in a velvet dress.   2002-09-16 16:56:04
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   " I'll lock you in a small brightly lit cell, subject you to Natalie Merchant tunes while a Skirt Wearing Richie pulls the heads of Yoda dolls.
you'll break...sooner rather than later.
also-no sausage. ever."
well, you said 'torture'... What youre proposing is just...EVIL.
  2002-09-16 16:55:49
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Its been done before, to folks just like me. You know that.   2002-09-16 16:55:03
kozikSend kozik a message :   I'll lock you in a small brightly lit cell, subject you to Natalie Merchant tunes while a Skirt Wearing Richie pulls the heads of Yoda dolls.
you'll break...sooner rather than later.
also-no sausage. ever.
  2002-09-16 16:55:02
kozikSend kozik a message :   Then..let me torture you for a while..we'll see.   2002-09-16 16:53:28
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   If I dont fear 'death' and have a hold on something intangible, then there is nothing a man could really do to me.
Some call this being mentally 'intoxicated'. I call it 'reality'.
  2002-09-16 16:52:40
kozikSend kozik a message :   Stackton and Broadway. Happy Panda Exports.   2002-09-16 16:51:26
kozikSend kozik a message :   If wishes where fishes we'd be up to our ass in Cod.   2002-09-16 16:50:56
kozikSend kozik a message :   I'm all for it. Anarchy. Except..we would all starve and be crapping in the dark.   2002-09-16 16:50:23
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Yes, but where does one purchase a Chinese soldier?   2002-09-16 16:50:18
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   "A Chinese soldier with an AK47 would basically negate any religious theories. or rights. you may claim exist or have. "
And yet, if I believe in the ability to live again, that this life is not all there is, then that sodier and his entire army have no hold on me.
  2002-09-16 16:50:17
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Your 'rights' should be as strong as the ability to enforce them...INDIVIDUALLY.
Look at the Serengetti.
THATS nature.
  2002-09-16 16:49:20
kozikSend kozik a message :   A Chinese soldier with an AK47 would basically negate any religious theories. or rights. you may claim exist or have.
  2002-09-16 16:49:11
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Thats why I say the word 'right' clouds the issue. And in that scenario, Id be in the state of not acknowledging any real governmental authority at all. Wouldnt I?
weve talked about this before. I view certain 'rights' I have as God-given.
You are an acknowledged athiest...or at least an agnostic.
So we cant really measure our ideas at length, one against the other, because of starting marks are very different.
  2002-09-16 16:47:39
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I didn't wear the skirt today.   2002-09-16 16:47:20
kozikSend kozik a message :   can you move that fast in your velvet man skirt?   2002-09-16 16:45:47
kozikSend kozik a message :   You only have 'rights' when you have the ability to enforce them.
There are no 'inherent' rights except to eat while avoid being eaten. check out nature. Your part of it.
'liberal' ideals are only possible where there is extreme concentration of wealth and resources.
the 'golden age' of decency never existed and never will. Your 'Rights' are bought for by the worlds blood.
  2002-09-16 16:44:08
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   kozik-
what??
  2002-09-16 16:43:24
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   wuh huh? I look goth? I'll be oer in 5 minutes to bust you're fuckin kneecaps.   2002-09-16 16:41:35
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Art, I disagree...
The right of equality and fair treatment is not a political idea. It is a basic fundamental 'right' of all human beings. To even call it a 'right' clouds the issue. Its like saying I have a 'right' to breather through my nose. Accepted social ideas in no way excuse 'certain' behaviours or thought patterns. That is a tired excuse thats always thrown up as 'justification' for obvious unhealthy tendencies. The state of 'equality' and a mans 'right' to it has ALWAYS existed, whether or not certain social-structures recognized it or not. You cant equate 'acceptance of racism' with old 'academic' ideas, like the world being flat, or the sun going round the earth... 'Freedom' is not an academically taught or learned idea. Its intrinsically 'human'.
Nope..I dont accept it. The fact that certain people fought slavery and racism WAAAY back then is evidence that the ability to see such things as 'wrong' was abundant. People, though, tend to take the easy way out...and tolerate crap...based on how theyve always seen things done. Well, no...I dont give em a 'bail-out'. Theyre guilty...perhaps to a less extent, but nevertheless, guilty.
  2002-09-16 16:40:53
kozikSend kozik a message :   Jermaine-your 'mind set' is completely Victorian in nature. All your basic concepts are Anglo constructs. Including 'liberal democracy'.
Richie- I would dearly love to see a Goodtimes Dud to Stud makeover..get rid of that goofy Goth look.....
  2002-09-16 16:36:25
uncle charlieSend uncle charlie a message :   No way, I want my foreskin back..   2002-09-16 16:36:02
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   You just need a makeover Charlie. That's your problem.   2002-09-16 16:35:13
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   jerry -
calling victorians racist is like accusing water of being wet. it was a different world - they saw eveything differently from us. they actually bled people to death in order to balance their 'humors'and save their lives. do we call them ignorant vampires?
we really can't judge different cultures of the past by today's worldview. they didn't know anything compared to us. a daily paper today has more base knowledge in it than the most educated scholar of the renaissance gathered in an entire lifetime.
  2002-09-16 16:33:17
uncle charlieSend uncle charlie a message :   She's got a penis that looks like an ant-eater   2002-09-16 16:33:06
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   So what. She can solve all of lifes problems with a makeover.   2002-09-16 16:32:14
kozikSend kozik a message :   It fucking rules. Better than Neverwhere I thought.   2002-09-16 16:32:02
uncle charlieSend uncle charlie a message :   By the way, nice poster here Mr. Arminski..   2002-09-16 16:31:59
standardSend standard a message :   I'm sure there's probably a Jenny Jones Book Club. Read what she tells you to read.   2002-09-16 16:31:37
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   was american gods good? i was thinking about picking that up.   2002-09-16 16:31:26
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Jenny is like 60 years old and still trying to look hot.   2002-09-16 16:31:08
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Charlies right. I'm sure Jenny Jones is on. Watch it.   2002-09-16 16:30:05
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   art-
nah, I was just alluding to the fact of us seeing the same things very differently...thats all. I got your ref. Im surprised you like Lovecraft. Really. I wouldnt figure you for a Lovecraftian... No reason, I just wouldnt..
  2002-09-16 16:28:38
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Yea, Lovecraft was hardcore racist. His private letters reveal a real piece of work...but he could write them-thar horrah stories about that Cthulu fella.... 'Pickmans Model' siggghhhh
Never said Poe couldnt write, guys...I own the mans books...Love 'the sphinx'...probably the best piece of horror-prose Ive read...
But, they were both losers.
  2002-09-16 16:27:25
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   jerry -
PE? is 'gravity's rainbow' a PE reference? i'm talking about thomas pynchon's book - which is like tiptoeing through a swamp as far as reading goes.
  2002-09-16 16:25:42
uncle charlieSend uncle charlie a message :   Everybody, stop reading, your all stupid enough as it is   2002-09-16 16:25:14
kozikSend kozik a message :   Jermaine you need to read:
Elias Cannetti 'crowds and power' Stanislaw Lem 'hospital of the transfiguration'
Stephen Neal 'American Gods'.
Lovecraft's racial musings made Poe seem like Martin Luther King.
  2002-09-16 16:23:53
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Chantry...
and we come back to Public Enemy.
Wow..weve made a full-circle!
Actually, Ive read most of them several times...some only once. Salinger, I could only do once...but that 'once' was glorious.
Most of my favorite writers arent American...but the previous list were those from this country.
  2002-09-16 16:23:02
standardSend standard a message :   Towards the end Natalie Merchant got a little nutty and started bringing that shit up and Hitler told her to fuck off.   2002-09-16 16:20:56
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   jerry -
do you ever re-read any of those names? lord knows some of them are snoozers the second go round. and i've read gravity's rainbow three times.
  2002-09-16 16:19:22
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   KZ-
never wouldve worked. hitler was all into the spooky kooky mumbo jumbo. he was an idiot who listened to 'voices'.
He shouldve failed quicker.
  2002-09-16 16:17:41
uncle charlieSend uncle charlie a message :   Iranian men have ant eater penises   2002-09-16 16:17:41
kozikSend kozik a message :   Natalie Merchant is a fat psychotic bitch that should be force-fed nicotene laden pork while getting ass fucked by teams of insane Iranian men.
All to the tune of say...Slayer.
  2002-09-16 16:16:36
gun shoSend gun sho a message :   i swam in Walden pond a few times this summer. the crowd's a perfect mic of white trash, yuppie bicyclists, hispanics, and people doing yoga. i guess i fall into the first catagory.   2002-09-16 16:16:32
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Chantry-
I merely adjusted to the template of the conversation.
  2002-09-16 16:16:18
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   "Thoruea was full of shit. His 'pond' was subsidized by his dad's pencil making business and like there was basically a 7-11 down the orad. Like 'camping out 'in the back yard.
His 'theories' where/are the phantasmagoria of a society that has never existed. He went on to fail quite dismally several times in the pencil business.
typical middle class liberal pap."
WHATever... Thoreaus ideas influenced more change in this country than most. Deal with it.
Best American writers to me: Thoreau Emerson Carlton Morse Lovecraft Robert Bloch Salinger Leiber (was he from here? he was all over the pulps) Pat Ronsond
ill think of more.
  2002-09-16 16:15:34
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   jerry -
yeah, mindless is the right word.
  2002-09-16 16:15:31
kozikSend kozik a message :   also..all that shit about hitler and the occult was nonsense. Torwards the end Himmler got a little nutty and started bringing that shit up and Hitler told him to fuck off. Hitler failed because he was a fool that set up an untenable system. If he had 'used' the jews and 'used' Ukrainian Nationalism and actually allowed Schacht to put together an econmic plan it MIGHT have worked, but how lame would that have been.
Fuck Hitler.
  2002-09-16 16:15:24
standardSend standard a message :   ...I think Allen Ginsberg has stirred up too much of a debate here. perhaps we should move down the bill a little bit and all discuss Natalie Merchant.
Everyone loves Natalie Merchant.
  2002-09-16 16:14:27
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   chantry-
Im pretty much just mindlessly rambling. Take nothing seriously...
except my last statement about Thoreau. THAT, Im serious about.
iceberg slim was an awful writer. he shouldve wrote movie screenplays instead...with Tarantino...for Spanish cinema...
  2002-09-16 16:13:08
kozikSend kozik a message :   Thoruea was full of shit. His 'pond' was subsidized by his dad's pencil making business and like there was basically a 7-11 down the orad. Like 'camping out 'in the back yard.
His 'theories' where/are the phantasmagoria of a society that has never existed. He went on to fail quite dismally several times in the pencil business.
typical middle class liberal pap.
  2002-09-16 16:13:04
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   american writers i never get tird of re-reading:
mark twain raymond chandler poe sherwood anderson hunter s. thompson h.p. lovecraft (atmosphere)
that's a fun start.
  2002-09-16 16:12:59
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   jerry -
so, let's see...
hitler was a better writer than poe.
hitler was an idiot. that makes poe less than an idiot.
iceberg slim, however, was a great writer.
i'm writing all this down for future reference.
  2002-09-16 16:11:05
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   Great American writer...
Mr. Thoreau.
Great American writing: 'Civil Disobedience'
think about it.
  2002-09-16 16:09:44
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   and the fact that he took suggestions from spirits and (so-called) dead Aryan 'godfathers' didnt help...
he was an idiot.
  2002-09-16 16:08:59
standardSend standard a message :   Quoth the Raven "ich bin nicht tot!"   2002-09-16 16:08:45
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   slim was a reprehensible violent pig bastard. my kinda guy.
bad writer.
  2002-09-16 16:07:47
kozikSend kozik a message :   Hitler wa snot a good writer...his great talent was 'working a crowd'...creating sexual energy in a mass setting. If you read the speeches they are crap..he was like a 'great comic'..timing, inflection..that was his 'gift'.
His social and economic ideas where beyond rudimentary and even if he HAD 'won' it all would have collpsed as it was all based on sand...there was no 'governemt' under the Nazis or 'economy' it was all 'smash and grab'...that's why they lost...casue their 'non-system' was basically not sustainable in real terms.
  2002-09-16 16:07:15
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   "EVERYONE is a fraud except Melville. There's your 'GREAT AMERICAN WRITER' "
and Iceberg Slim
  2002-09-16 16:06:50
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   frank - that's funny.
jerry - that's even funnier.
  2002-09-16 16:06:41
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   not at all.
Poe was a BETTER writer.
heh
  2002-09-16 16:06:13
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   i ove it. jerry is equating poe with hitler. that's rich.   2002-09-16 16:04:09
kozikSend kozik a message :   she did Howard for years in between the other dudes..until Tracy....I just read a crazy biography...
EVERYONE is a fraud except Melville. There's your 'GREAT AMERICAN WRITER'
Moby Dick is THE 'Great American Novel' and for that reason alone I LOATHE Starbucks.
  2002-09-16 16:03:29
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   jermaine (perhaps i will call you 'jerry') -
you say that like it's a bad thing...
oh, he was kinda scary, too.
  2002-09-16 16:03:23
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   and Kate was hot in ALice Adams... long legs and all...   2002-09-16 16:02:39
JermaineSend Jermaine a message :   poe was a self-absorbed, clinically ill, racist pro-slavery coward. Perpetual 'victim'. But he COULD write.
But then, so could Adolf...
  2002-09-16 16:02:07
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   after tracy kicked, she never fucked another MAN again.   2002-09-16 16:01:38
kozikSend kozik a message :   I wonder if she remembers blowing Howard Hughes.   2002-09-16 16:00:52
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   if that's an insult, i'll accept it with a smile.   2002-09-16 16:00:17
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   now, you talk about TWITCHY!
she's still alive. she's as old as god and is totally altzheimered out. a quivering bag of gelatinous goop.
  2002-09-16 15:59:42
kozikSend kozik a message :   I LOVE Poe cause he was such a fucking sleazy loser.
In factm Art, your obsessive quibling over semantics is very reminiscent of his literary critique methodology...very. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............
  2002-09-16 15:59:20
kozikSend kozik a message :   like i said...class background and a nice 1930's mid-atlantic patrician accent will work wonders with the rubes.Look what it did for that psychotic twat Katherine Hepburn.   2002-09-16 15:58:00
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   the first 'boho' writer was actually poe. a lot of scholars start beat bohemianism with him.
i've chaecked out both of his gravesite. both are very nice, thank you.
  2002-09-16 15:56:42
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   and, ya know, there really was something wonderful about that old geezer from hell burroughs. he was sort of a stephen king novel meets philip k. dick and a touch of h.p.lovecraft horrorshow all balled up into one mad uncle. it was ok by me. he;s buried here in st, louis. the family plot. burroughs typewriter fortune.   2002-09-16 15:54:44
kozikSend kozik a message :   fuck that...while we are at it fuck the 'original' faggot beat Walt Whitman too.
Only Burroughs had the brains to milk that shit to the end without looking stupid. I guess coming from a class background helps.
  2002-09-16 15:54:11
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   actually he did try writing a book. it sucked, even he thought so. he never did it again. he just 'drove'. worship the great god ROTOR!   2002-09-16 15:52:04
kozikSend kozik a message :   He took all those fucking homos for a ride thats for sure.
At least all he did was tweak and fuck and like leave behind no 'manuscript'. THAT"S cool.
Ferlinghetti is the WORST. blech.
  2002-09-16 15:48:45
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   oh come on, frank. casady was one of the greatest speedfreaks of all time! how can you hate a guy who just started moving and didn't stop until he was hit by a fucking train.
now, THAT's cool!
  2002-09-16 15:45:59
kozikSend kozik a message :   Ginsberg...another Fraud...
"I walked the angry Negro Streets at dawn looking for some hoy young man booty that will fuck my ass even tho Im a n ugly bald fuck.
His whole career was a way to scam under age cock.
I HATE the beats. hate them. At least Kerouac had the grace to admit it was crap and drink himself to death as soon as possible.
  2002-09-16 15:36:44
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