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Joe Norkus 
Chapel Hill
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2007-11-15 08:36:11
Embarrassing Fruits
Jason Dove

Butterflies Poster - Nightlight, Chapel Hill - Joe Norkus

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Joe NorkusSend Joe Norkus a message :   hey poondaddy! Missed ya all these years. Here's another one BTW!   2012-02-27 08:03:47
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   GAWDDAMMIT JOSH! Where the fuck have you been? Hello to your family. Hope all is well. Keep in touch.   2012-02-16 09:17:11
Josh RickunSend Josh Rickun a message :   hi phoondaddy!   2012-02-16 08:58:08
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   Welcome to 2007 Joe.   2012-02-16 08:21:32
Joe NorkusSend Joe Norkus a message :   been done before folks:   2012-02-16 08:17:58
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   How come Dorian Grey is on this poster?   2008-02-26 14:55:34
RobSend Rob a message :   Kinda looks like David Johansson.   2008-02-26 14:42:51
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   No this is that guy that was in that one movie with Emilio Estevez about a race car driver/time traveler.   2008-02-26 14:38:54
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   I think this is the guy that was in the Dancing in the streets video that that other guy who did the iggy starchild was in   2008-02-26 14:37:44
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   High Tide and Green Grass is also a good one for old stuff.   2008-02-26 14:22:15
steve wSend steve w a message :   I agree with cerdo and rob. I loved pussy galore's version of exile, too.   2008-02-26 14:19:29
RobSend Rob a message :   beggars banquet!   2008-02-26 14:18:04
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   Let it Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Satanic are the ones I listen to most. And then of course there's OUT OF THE CELLAR!   2008-02-26 14:16:22
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   Oh wait... you mean the guy on this poster is in a BAND? Which one?   2008-02-26 13:42:14
philaarts.comSend a message :   brain fart. oopsie. i know what my fav stones albums are however..   2008-02-26 13:40:51
steve wSend steve w a message :   gimme shelter is a song on Let it Bleed, dave   2008-02-26 11:42:53
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   and when merry clayton's voice cracks in the middle of her background turn, it makes my heart stop every time. utter horror...   2008-02-26 11:41:52
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   gimmee shelter popped up on npr in a weird "muzak" version this morning. man, it still managed to send a chill down my spine. that song really managed to capture a moment of sheer dread.   2008-02-26 11:40:48
philaarts.comSend a message :   sticky fingers   2008-02-26 11:40:17
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   Some Girls, best album cover (the original).   2008-02-26 11:40:02
philaarts.comSend a message :   exile and let it bleed i think are a little better.. but agreed.
and satanic is underrated.
  2008-02-26 11:38:43
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   everybody who hates the stones should go listen to "gimmee shelter" again.
dang, that's a great record...
  2008-02-26 11:37:30
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   Mick Van Halen-Ruth poster > RATT poster.   2008-02-25 16:36:20
msaputoSend msaputo a message :   "A lizard body, a white trickle down his mouth, syringes shooting out of his eyes"
Now THAT'S a poster.
  2008-02-25 15:16:13
JohnHowardSend JohnHoward a message :   haha Rick nailed it. mid solo grin.   2008-02-24 15:35:42
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   Eddie Van Halen. Bwahahahahahahaha   2008-02-24 15:27:32
JohnHowardSend JohnHoward a message :   Noobs to the left of me, geezers to the right..   2008-02-24 15:26:03
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   2008-02-24 14:56:35
john seaburySend john seabury a message :   Look who's talking.   2008-02-24 14:54:21
JohnHowardSend JohnHoward a message :   you're old   2008-02-24 14:44:49
scrojoSend scrojo a message :   Kitty Carlisle was my guess.
( it).
  2008-02-24 14:27:05
lil_tuffySend lil_tuffy a message :   Wait!!!! That's Mick? I thought it was Eddie Van Halen this whole time.   2008-02-24 14:12:02
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   "there is plenty of room here on good ol' gp for BAD artsists, ya know?"
Yeah, I'm living proof.
  2008-02-24 13:15:13
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   dan -
huh. i didn't know it was legal, now. maybe it was all along. i dunno. but, it sure isn't a good defense in court. go ask negativeland.
also, if you notice - that is a drawing of uncle mick. not a photo. in fact, it's a rather well done portrait of our favorite peter pan. so, in a rather unimaginative way, the artist HAS "made it his own". he's just not a very IMAGINATIVE artist. we often call unimaginative art, "bad" art.
there is plenty of room here on good ol' gp for BAD artsists, ya know?
  2008-02-24 12:53:56
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   Yeah, if certain few had their way there'd be no such thing as fair use. "Fair use" IS a specific legal term though (, but just as the govt admits on that page "The distinction between 'fair use' and infringement may be unclear and not easily defined." But I refer to fair use here not as a matter of legal infringement but just as a matter of our own creative goals as poster artists are concerned. In this case I believe Joe has done nothing to advance the image or idea of Mick Jagger. He's slapped him on a poster without recontextualizing him in some way. Sorry, is "recontextualizing" is even a word? Screw it. All I'm saying is, make it yours.   2008-02-24 12:48:09
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   be careful about that term "fair use". it's NOT a legal term. it's NOT legal doctrine. it's a concept that many many people would love to see made into the law. but, currently, it's an idealistic fancy that has no legal history to back it up. it's going to take many years of legal battles to establish it. and we (the folks who'd like to see it become law) don't have the deep pockets to fight the guys who would rather see it NOT be the law (aka - corporate interests.)   2008-02-24 11:41:45
B-DROIDSend B-DROID a message :   Apparatus nailed it. Tits or GTFO.   2008-02-24 11:08:24
john seaburySend john seabury a message :   Jagger looks like a chick.   2008-02-24 11:03:48
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   Sorry, I think you all are missing the point. The real problem here is the lack of tits.   2008-02-24 10:31:21
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   This harkens?   2008-02-24 10:25:08
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   Oh, sure. Why don't you just go ahead and elevate the discussion to something all smart-like?   2008-02-24 09:31:23
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   I kind of think you all are missing the point here. I think it's about the basic idea of fair use and the concept of using an existing image while ADVANCING that image. This poster doesn't advance this image of Jagger at all. It's just Jagger. A lizard body, a white trickle down his mouth, syringes shooting out of his eyes, anything that might have made a statement or a story or "advanced" the image of Mick beyond just a picture of him would be more appropriate, and maybe interesting. This poster does no kind of advancement and I think that's the problem.   2008-02-24 08:42:21
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   What do you mean by "you people"?
  2008-02-22 12:59:32
scrojoSend scrojo a message :   "...harkens back to the late 60's early 70's period of psychedelic screen printed posters".
very few of the posters were screen printed.
no comment on this poster, just sayin.
  2008-02-22 12:49:40
Joe NorkusSend Joe Norkus a message :   man you people are angry, and it doesn't take much either huh?   2008-02-22 12:49:35
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   What for when you have RATT?   2008-02-22 12:47:56
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   Nah.   2008-02-22 12:46:34
Joe NorkusSend Joe Norkus a message :   Well, Art Chantry and Ron Liberti commented on my poster, so I'm happy. As for the rest of you, I guess this was more of a spur of the moment decision, and a stylistic one too. I think the typography maybe harkens back to the late 60's early 70's period of psychedelic screen printed posters, which doesn't necessarily relate to the music being advertised. But so what? Mick Jagger is a cultural icon. Therefore, it's almost like the whole Mao thing. Thanks for all the discussion though. Maybe you'll check out more of my work.... that's all I can ask.   2008-02-22 12:42:57
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   "A simple search"? What's that? I suck at the internets.   2008-02-22 11:24:41
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   if you would do a simple search, you would have found out that Mick Jaggers birthday is August 15th. Is that the reason he used his pic? Who knows.   2008-02-22 11:22:43
B-DROIDSend B-DROID a message :   Phoon, always trumping up that clam.   2008-02-22 11:21:32
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   It's up to you to explain why he used this. "Splainplzkthxbai   2008-02-22 11:21:32
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   I see, no worries.
The way i see it, is people should do what they want on the poster as long as it's not a complete rip. To each their own. This guy must have his own reasons for using that on this poster, but it's not up to the artist to explain his work if he doesn't feel it's necessary.
My 2 pence.
  2008-02-22 11:20:25
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   phoon.. I was actually talking to Art there   2008-02-22 11:14:56
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   it's busy   2008-02-22 11:13:36
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   Needs more Bowie cock   2008-02-22 11:03:56
perkinsSend perkins a message :   Needs more horse cock.   2008-02-22 09:13:32
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   Y'know, my original question (and it WAS a question, not a slam) was simply: "Why did you do this?" You're quite welcome to label me a shitty designer who can't print to save his life. BUT - I at least try to come up with ideas first and then execute them, not the other way around. I guess "other people do it" or "it just looked cool" is an okay reason to put ink to paper. But compare this to ANYTHING by Munn - who displays such efficiency with ideas and execution - and it just seems random.   2008-02-22 08:57:43
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   i think warhol did too   2008-02-22 08:01:59
steve wSend steve w a message :   zach put mick on a poster once   2008-02-22 07:47:34
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   this is guano.   2008-02-22 07:35:43
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   "wait a second.. so.. it's ok to demand an explanation from Paul Gardner for his Dan Deacon skullyfuck poster, but this guy's use of Mick now falls under artistic freedom? Do you flip a coin in the morning to decide which side of the fence your going to graze on?. "
I don't think you'll find where I demanded that Paul Gardner explain his Dan Deacon poster.
  2008-02-22 05:25:00
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   I agree with cerdo   2008-02-21 23:29:23
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   Alright... I just skimmed through all the other comments. It's stupid that Mick Jagger is on this poster.   2008-02-21 22:20:10
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   And around we go again...   2008-02-21 22:17:06
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   Why is Mick Jagger on this poster?   2008-02-21 22:12:49
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   "I'm Mick Jagger, and I endorse this poster."   2008-02-21 22:11:37
Pfahlert Creative LabsSend Pfahlert Creative Labs a message :   only 115 more comments to go.   2008-02-21 21:23:29
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   Butterflies, dude. BUTTERFLIES.   2008-02-21 18:22:26
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   is this something beer goggles can correct?   2008-02-21 18:16:30
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   condoms.   2008-02-21 18:12:22
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   A bunch of you need to go to the doctor and get your eyes checked for myopia.
And avoid Flatstock, because I believe this strain of myopia is contagious.
  2008-02-21 18:11:26
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   i mix power with absinthe.
tasty and whotta high!
  2008-02-21 18:08:59
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   Art is drunk on power!!
and.. wine spritzers... but mostly power!
  2008-02-21 18:08:03
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   well, you see... if everybody adopts this new "artistic freedom" credo, then nobody will ever pick on me again for using old appropriated artwork. you see, i'm a sneaky bastard with manipulative agendas intact. what i REALLY want to accomplish with this bold new plan is world domination...
today gigposters, tomorrow the WORLD!!
artistic freedom NOW!!!
  2008-02-21 18:04:49
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   wait a second.. so.. it's ok to demand an explanation from Paul Gardner for his Dan Deacon skullyfuck poster, but this guy's use of Mick now falls under artistic freedom? Do you flip a coin in the morning to decide which side of the fence your going to graze on?.
I agree, yes, artistic freedom! hooray! But doing something that undermines the bands image or intent (i.e. joy division on an interpol poster) is egotistical. that was my point.
  2008-02-21 18:00:30
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   No wonder I'm always being shit upon...   2008-02-21 17:26:24
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I like Art's concept. Do whatever the hell you want just don't cry like a baby when you get shit on for being dumb. That works for me.   2008-02-21 15:06:49
SashSend Sash a message :   true. he was just doing some RESEARCH on entophilia.   2008-02-21 14:34:55
B-DROIDSend B-DROID a message :   entophile? I doubt Mick is that perverted.   2008-02-21 14:33:09
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   Maybe Mick Jagger really likes butterflies. Maybe he's an entophile.
  2008-02-21 14:21:15
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   OMG OMG OMG I WONDER IF MICK IS READING THIS ROIGHT NOW?   2008-02-21 14:10:36
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   i believe i said "Fartistic reedom."   2008-02-21 14:09:12
steve wSend steve w a message :   I bet Keith called Mick an embarassing fruit more than once   2008-02-21 14:07:00
Carlos ArtestSend Carlos Artest a message :   i almost spit my coffee out everywhere!   2008-02-21 14:05:19
steve wSend steve w a message :   "it's only rock and roll"   2008-02-21 14:04:37
Carlos ArtestSend Carlos Artest a message :   I guess i don't understand the why/why-not of using Mick. Like, why the designer thought "hey you know what graphic would go good here? mick jagger smiling." not that its a bad thing, just a mysterious choice.   2008-02-21 14:02:08
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   But I said Artistic Freedom first, so basically Chantry plagerized me.   2008-02-21 13:52:58
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   crap. I agree with Ron, but not Art. Now I'm totally confused.   2008-02-21 13:42:30
Ron LibertiSend Ron Liberti a message :   art chantry : " artistic freedom is where it's at"
word up
  2008-02-21 13:31:01
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   oh! then that is why she's smiling and there's a white trickle down the corner of her mouth...   2008-02-21 13:14:10
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   You live in one of only two cities on this side of the mountatins that has a Red Lobster. For some unknown reason, my brother is OBSESSED with that place... probably because he's never been.   2008-02-21 13:13:40
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   OMG! I thought this was Dr. Ruth.!!!!!!!   2008-02-21 13:12:47
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   nah, actually there's this joint down the street - almost across the street from the java jive - where they make the world's best fish and chips on fridays. i think it's a catholic thing.   2008-02-21 12:53:08
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   He's more of an Applebee's kinda man.   2008-02-21 12:51:15
lil_tuffySend lil_tuffy a message :   Art's taking me out to Chili's! Mmmm... Skillet Queso!   2008-02-21 12:46:27
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   artistic freedom is where it's at. i think anything at all should be allowed, no matter what anybody thinks.
this "artist" should have the right to use a photo of anybody they want. i fully support their position. and if they get sued, they will be martyrs to the cause.
i also demand the artistic right to take out anybody who uses my face without my permission.
the bottom line is anything is ok if you don't get caught. this is america. it's what made us great. we are a nation of hustlers and thieves. however, you also have to be willing to pay the piper when he comes calling. it's the only integrity you have.
under these terms, murder is ok. but if you get caught, then you have to pay. "extremism in the cause of liberty is no vice". the original conservative republican barry goldwater said that.
  2008-02-21 12:44:05
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   Artistic freedom 4eVr Mazns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   2008-02-21 11:21:10
John ASend John A a message :   I agree with Fisher.   2008-02-20 19:53:53
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   No, it always matters. I didn't mean to imply I would or anybody should do it. I was just making a smart ass remark about how much I think Interpol sucks. Mostly because they sound just like Joy Division. I guess it came across like I was endorsing the idea. Which I don't. Much like I don't think this makes sense. WTF does Mick Jagger have to do with anything going on here?   2008-02-20 18:59:34
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   It only matters if it's a metal band.   2008-02-20 09:59:02
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   WHITEY = R.A.T.T. Right All The Time!!!   2008-02-19 13:02:25
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   WHITEY WINS!!!!   2008-02-19 12:55:51
John ASend John A a message :   Buggery on the high seas!!   2008-02-19 12:53:30
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   but isn't that what we all hate... the notion of designers projecting their own bias into the design.. all those shitty HOF posters that are designer-y and not appropriate fall into the dame category of non objectivity, douchebuggery..
  2008-02-19 12:36:46
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   No, I agree 100% Whitey. You'd have to be a dick to do it. But, it'd be kind of fitting and god damn funny.   2008-02-19 12:33:19
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   I'm a condescending fuckface.   2008-02-19 12:31:20
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   no you Mike, I mean in general...   2008-02-19 12:29:28
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   it would make sense to put Joy Division on an interpol poster if you wanted to make an obvious designer critique, and make a poster that didn't suit the band, and be a condecending fuckface... then it makes sense   2008-02-19 12:28:51
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Putting Joy Division on a Interpol poster would make 100% sense. Considering Interpol would have been forced to copy a different band for their sound had there been no Joy Division.   2008-02-19 12:19:38
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   oddly, I sort of agree with rickg. I've never understood putting other iconic rock personalities on gig posters. nor do I get why there are 1000 variations on the Kiss make-up theme... I'd kind of like to know the rationale too...
other than, perhaps, the old "who fucking cares what's on it, it's just a poster for a small show" rationale
  2008-02-19 12:09:36
poguemahoneSend poguemahone a message :   this isn't bowie?   2008-02-19 12:08:31
John ASend John A a message :   don't give up. DEMAND ANSWERS!!!   2008-02-19 11:56:57
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   If I had a hammer... I'd hammer in the morning   2008-02-19 11:54:04
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   OMG! "Midnight Rambler" just came on the radio!
It's a sign from GOD!!!!!!!!!!!
  2008-02-19 11:53:29
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   Jesus, I give up. Please crucify me for being curious.   2008-02-19 11:51:59
John ASend John A a message :   call the design police OMG   2008-02-19 11:50:41
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   You bustin balls on this design isn't rational either.
He doesn't have to explain shit.
  2008-02-19 11:50:24
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   "Other people do it" isn't a good rationale for design. I'm seriously just interested to hear why Mick. Why this poster. Was it just random?   2008-02-19 11:46:34
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   RickG, alot of people have done this. Print Mafia comes to mind.   2008-02-19 11:32:39
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   Why are you referencing music history on a music-related poster? What I mean is: If I put Joy Division on an Interpol poster, wouldn't that be just a LITTLE weird? Or even more accurately, what if I stuck a picture of Devo on an AFI poster? What would that mean? Don't get pissy - just explain your thinking!   2008-02-19 11:31:11
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   DO NOT USE THAT TONE ROUND THESE PARTS!
  2008-02-19 08:18:46
Joe NorkusSend Joe Norkus a message :   I know who the fuck Mick Jagger is. What's wrong w/ referencing a bit of history?   2008-02-19 08:15:19
ImJustRickGSend ImJustRickG a message :   Maybe it's: "If you like this, you'll LOVE Butterflies!" The implied relationship. Or maybe (maybe!) the designer is too young to know who that is and just thought a smiling guy on a poster is a good idea?   2007-11-16 16:55:31
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   another example. don't get it.   2007-11-16 16:25:49
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