Indeed. we were making fun of our lead account guy as we all went on a lunch ride and he was the definition of that South park episode on his FatBob.
he's a good guy though.. all in good fun. FAGS LOLZ!!!!
I just noticed a picture of a co-worker rocking out at the RATT concert that was here earlier this year hanging on the fridge in our office the other day. IT looks like he's haveing a RATT-TASTIC time. I'm kicking myself for missing it.
I was over it until this poster and the details behind it surfaced. I mean... I could see if I was some noob on "the scene" that one would disregard my involvement in a "coveted poster" series... but that's not the case. I'm not a noob. The stuff I had cooking was every bit as good as anything I've seen in this series. So the translation I hear in my head now is "No Denny, you're not one of us. Step aside. We need to let Martin shit something out in a day. Those rules we've all discussed 'til we're blue in the face, the ones about permissions that you've been playing by like us pros? Well, those rules don't apply here. We're making a new set of rules that serve us better. This is OFFICIAL and you're not welcome in this new playground we're building."
How hard would it have been to say... "Sorry dude, here's a later date that we need something for..." I mean... if Martin only had a day.? Gimme a fucking break.
"I wouldn't say we were their first pick or they were our first pick – tours are tough," Extreme front man Gary Cherone says to Noisecreep about the band's upcoming trek with 80s rockers RATT.........nuff said
"Well, yeah, yeah, right, that’s true, we started out as… we were a hard rock band, in a sort of Aerosmith vein. A lot of the other bands that were opening for us, like Metallica, or Armored Saint, those guys were like, "arrhh," in studs and in leather [adopts a cookie monster voice], and we were more into fashion. It was Stephen’s concept to do that. Our photo shoots were always with those clothes from King’s Road-looking places, almost Duran Duran throwaways, you know. So it sort of separated us from the others. And the material was a potpourri of pop and hard rock songs. Pop-rock, which I like, personally. As far as the girls go, yeah, we had Marianne Gravatte on the cover of Invasion of Your Privacy, and she’s a very hot-looking, unobtainable girl for most of us [Laughs]. But then when we did the video for “I Want a Woman”, we specifically went the other way."
"Listen, it is just simple. Stephen quit the band. He said “I quit, I am not touring with your guys, get another singer and go ahead. ”He ruined the tour, he ruined the deal with the company and he tries to tour on his own. When we are out touring and doing very well. And he tries to tour his own “Ratt” and he is suing us, claiming that we stole the money, a punch of shit. That’s absolute lies, pathologic lies and he is a sick person."
Something different as in not the RATT poster at all? Or a different idea for a RATT poster... if it's later I still want to see it. If It's the former... you suck for not tossing it over to me if you didn't want to do it.
Do you think hair care products are on the RATT tour rider? "5 cans Aquanet, straightening iron, 1500w hair dryer WITH diffuser option must be provided back stage or RATT reserves the right to not perform."
I agree with this:
"dude was hoping no one would notice that he was copying-and-pasting from an australian. this is different from PM using classic porn imagery"
when asked where he got a portion of his piece... instead of answering truthfully, he tried to hide the fact that he got it somewhere other than making it. entirely on his own.
I have no problem with appropriation. I do it often. I have a problem with dishonesty.
How terrible... man I'd give anyone $10 if they read all of the comments in this bitch and then recite at least 50 comments here word from word and no cheating... and those comments must be at least 20 words long, contain at least 40 vowels, and must at least be in lower case type only.
Also only 3 of these dudes are the originals. Bass player dude died as I mentioned previously. and the other member said he wasn't down because pearcy hasn't changed a bit. But really I think the rest of the band wouldn't let me back in because he looked like a used car sales man and didn't fit the part any more.
Stephen Pearcy seems like a complete douche. He was saying that he was too retarded to remember what city he was playing in and even with writing it down on paper he would still screw up and scream out the wrong city to the crowd. This poster does him a lot of justice he looked like hell on tv.
6-13-08 Victor's RATT blog
It appears some dude in the band had HIV, but he died of shooting up too much heroin in 2002. They interviewed that chick that danced on the car in the white snake video about him and she said he was a real fighter, but it sounds like he wasn't a very good fighter since he died. RIP dude who lost the fight.
RATT behind the music is on VH1 at the moment. Also RATTS, bugs and bats is on History international right now too. There's probably some other RAT fun going on as well... The carnival is in town this weekend I'll see if I spot any t-shirts or tapestries with the boys on them.
I was going to change my avatar every week with a different member. But I'm pretty lazy and I figure since Pearcy is the singer which automatically makes him the leader of the band that I would stick with the power player.
I don't know when I've been so blue
Don't know what's come over you
You've found someone new
And don't it make yout brown eye blue
I'll be fine when you're gone
I'll just cry all night long
Say it isn't true
And don't it make your brown eye blue
Tell me no secrets, tell me some lies
Give me no reasons, give me alibis
Tell me you love me and don't let me cry
Say anything but don't say goodbye
I didn't mean to treat you bad
Didn't know just what I had
But honey now I do
And don't it make your brown eye
Don't it make your brown eye
"I WILL HANG THIS IN MY OFFICE!!! FOR THE LOVE OF BACON SOMEONE MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!"
between now and the 19 they are plaing house of blues las vegas, sunset and anaheim. i might be able to get one thru my san diego HOB contact but you'd prob have better luck seeing if one of the LA goons can score.
I got a job right out of college doing concert merchandise for sony. I was the youngest in the art department and got to work with some really talented people. After working there a while, I remember having this conversation with one of the artists, Steve. I mentioned how I used to get a shirt at each show I went to...that was my thing...and the shirt I remembered wearing the most was for RATT. It had a rat getting electricuted...at the time, I had told him that it was like 10 years ago that I had that shirt...and then he told me that he was the one that made it. He drew that rat! I couldn't believe it...I said it would be a cool day when someone has some story about a shirt that I made, 10 years later...who knows.
Ok, that was my Ratt story...now I am part of this Ratt Phenomenon.
"Has it been mentioned yet that Uncle Milty is in the Round and Round video? How did this hair-band pull of a coup like that? Discuss."
because........ the good ( well hung ) "uncle" is, in fact, the uncle of the lead singer.
You gotta ask yourself.
Should a poster that is actually "good" in that it fits the band and does it's job well snag that 1K mark first?
Or should a hacked out drawing that speaks nothing to the band and pretty much fails snag that 1K mark first?
What would it say about us as a community of gigposter snobs if the the one we choose as "most commented poster" is a steaming pile.
note: I've got nothing but respect for Nate... everyone produces clunkers.
ImJustRickG: Explain to me why this poster blows. Is it because you don't like the band? Is it because it's actually good but you're just tired of looking at it? Or is it poorly designed and ineffectual as a gigposter?
It's actually perfect for this band in this stage of their career.
Give us your honest crit beyond "this blows". Why does it blow?
I think Donald Rumsfeld explained it best with - there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know
fine: in "college", when a tour came through town and played the colliseum of the "university", studentia could "snag" a free ticket
to the show by setting up the thousand chairs on the floor of the thing during the day. Since I never went to class (literally. I got straight F's with a 0.00 GPA even in "Basic Design" or whatever. Another story) I was free to set up chairs and see RATT with opener Bon Jovi "wiki:While embarking on a tour opening up for Ratt in 1985..." and hear the sound checks and all that. They were good. I airbrushed a killer tee shirt for this hot townie girl that worked in the kitchen at the "college" and asked her to the show with my free tickets and she went. I later discovered that she only went to make her bubba boyfriend jealous and that if I liked, he would probably beat me to death if I kept talking to her. Oh well. She prolly doesn't even remember where she got that killer Ratt tee shirt. Hillbilly.
-Years later as I walked through the mall back home, now a full-fledged Mall airbrush tee shirt hero of St. Louis (Chesterfield Mall, California (!!?) Shirt Works.) a little kid, pulling his mother along pointed at me, striding by with my long long semi-permed coiffure billowing, and said "Look, Ma, it's that Bon Jovi guy! (no pun intended, I am sure!)" and mother smiled. She wanted some. I knew.
-Years later, driving through Tarzana, I saw a sign on a local bar that said "Steven Pearcy acoustic" or something like that.
-And now here we all are back again, except for the college and the long hair. Good times. I might even break out my old airbrush gear. See if I still got the touch.
Because every time the MIGHTY RATT POSTER sits on the top of the comments, some lame attempt at saving the chicken is made. And each time the MIGHTY RATT POSTER creeps closer and closer to it's rightful place on the throne of comments.
Your efforts to save your precious chicken are futile.
Actually during about this same time (when I had a slight perm to my mullet) me and my friends were into making bombs. My dad used to re-load his own shotgun shells so we had take this fine gun powder he had and ignite it and it would go up into mushroom clouds of smoke. One day me, my friend Jeff and Travis were together and we decided to make a bomb. I had just finished one of those small orange juice bottles with the pop off caps (I don't know how else to describe it) and I was like 'Dudes, lets make a bomb out of this!' Jeff wanted to go home because he was afraid his mom would ground him. Travis was all for it.. So I get out the gun powder and start to fill this. We run out about one quarter of the way through. So I find another thing of gun powder and it's in BB form (not fine). So I fill the rest with it and shake it up. Then we get a bunch of black cat firecrackers and pull the fuses out of them and twist them together to make one long fuse. Light it and RUN. Thing sizzles and nothing. So we approach it slowly and see that the magic is gone. Jeff is whining he wants to go home. I'm like ok game over let's go. Travis being the dumbest bastard alive says 'no, I'm going to light a match, drop it and run'. We're like, no dude that's stupid. We might be around 13ish but we even know that's a retarded idea. He insists. So we start to walk off as he's doing it and then BOOOOOM!!!! and cloud of smoke every where. So I turn around and looking around and I can't hear anything for a moment. And then out of no where I hear this screaming. Out of the smoke I see this black figure and all I can see is the whites of his eyes and his teeth. The rest of his is like solid black. His hair was solid Black (he's normally a red head) and it's blown straight back and burnt into place (just like warner brother cartoons). So I start running and he starts screaming 'Tyson! Tyson! help me!!!' so I'm like "Go inside and wash up!!!" so me and Jeff are standing in front of my kitchen window that's open while travis is washing up in the sink and we're like 'dude!?!? what are we going to do!?!?!" and Travis is screaming and freaking out. Jeff Says 'Travis, Calm Down!" Travis goes ape shit "Calm down!?!?! Jeff look at me I'm fried!!!". Anyway there's more to the story but post story. Travis had third degree burns all over his body and had some insane chance of going blind like 75%. When he came back to school the next month or two he Looked like Pink for 'The Wall' With no eye brows or eye lashes. -The End
Hopefully that was some what coherent.
I also remember stealing metal bands like Britney Fox, Dangerous Toys and Tora Tora and after listening to them realizing they weren't worth the risk. Not that Lita Ford was, but at least I could jack it to her pictures. I should have got busted for shop lifting early on and saved me from a alot of really horrible music.
I remember when I was a kid going to the mall and stealing all the RATT and Lita Ford albums that were out at the time. I think that was pre reach for the sky (and not sure if there's been anything since). But I used to have this weird OCD complex where I would organize all my tapes in alphabetic order and if people wouldn't put shjt back in it's place I would go crazier than a shjt house RATT.
I was so hoping that was going to be on a chick's booty and not some ahiry dude who's balls are on the verge of falling out of his shorts...
Hey Robbie! Thanks for brining this to my attention.
Long time fan, first time poster: I LOVE RATT!!!! Out of the Cellar was THE summit of 80's Heavy Metal! I used to crank that up, do a line of coke, then watch Miami Vice with the volume down. ROUND AND ROUND INDEED!
I can't really imagine what else can be said about this poster. Years from now some noob is going to get this on the randomizer and think he has something clever to say and then weep to see anything and everything has already been covered.
"I know this is juvenile but I just read these two names together and lol'd. ROBBIEFUCTARTCHANTRY- johnnyjack
which one is homosexual in that word?" -art
"Art- Both. Unless your in prison, then neither." johnnyjack
yes, you apparently ARE fuct.
am i pronouncing that correctly "F-U-C-K-E-D" ? i hope so. i wouldn't want to upset those sensitive EMOtions just now, especially when you are getting all ready to attend a evening of ethnic world beat music tonite at that silverstein show? israeli back beat hoedown jazz?
I know you guys are probably hating on me to some degree for making this poster such an integral part of your virtual lives but the person you really want to blame is ricv64. Had he never made that fateful first comment I bet this never would have happened.
This poster cannot kill you. It can only make you stronger.
Hey all, this is my first post here at Game Banshee and i have one question- what do i do with a dead dragon? In many adventures i have come accross dragons and once me and the rest of my party have killed it we take its hoard and leave. but is there anything i can do with the corpse? so far me and my friends have come up with- skinning it and selling its bones. thats it, please help!
I noticed earlier today when looking at this poster, that the Google add right above the Poster Details over on the left was offering RATT ring tones.
As a matter of fact... a different RATT ringtone ad is in the adspace right above this box RIGHT NOW!
I heard their original name was CHANTTRY, but due to a cease and desist, they changed it. Curt Kobain was the original lead singer, then Stephen Pearcy kicked his ass in Fargo while Michael and Amy Jo cheered.
Michael, I kind of think you are missing the point here. I think it's about the basic idea of fair use and the concept of using an existing image while ADVANCING that image. This poster doesn't advance this image of your childhood at all. It's just a picture of your favorite band of all time. Lizard bodies, a white trickle down their mouths, syringes shooting out of their eyes, anything that might have made a statement or a story or "advanced" the image of RATT beyond just a picture of them would be more appropriate, and maybe interesting. This poster does no kind of advancement and I think that's the problem.
Well, I'm not saying I give shit about them now. But being that I grew up near Fargo, ND they were one of the first ROCK shows I saw before I knew much about punk rock. I bet Amy Jo might've been there too!
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I kind of think you all are missing the point here. I think it's about the basic idea of fair use and the concept of using an existing image while ADVANCING that image. This poster doesn't advance this image of Ratt at all. It's just Ratt. Lizard bodies, a white trickle down their mouths, syringes shooting out of their eyes, anything that might have made a statement or a story or "advanced" the image of Ratt beyond just a picture of them would be more appropriate, and maybe interesting. This poster does no kind of advancement and I think that's the problem.
Are their albums after the one that was on any different? Like did they try anything new, progress in any way or did they just keep doing the same thing over and over?
I've not heard anything past Dancing Under cover other than what was played on the radio at the time.
It takes me back to a lost time. A time I could go to the local swap meet at the drive-in theatre on a saturday and get my G-N-R Tapestry for my bedroom and all my shitty bootleg tapes of hair metal bands. Or try to win that badass white snake t-shirt at the local carnival getting all the rings on the bottles. What's the equivelant of this shit now? ICP and Hot Topic?
here's a visual: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3w4MxTbfkEs
i like how the drummer has a fan below to blow his hair up. i may put one in my office...make me look cool behind my computer when people walk in.
Flandrz's Scrum-diddily-umptious Stewed Cane RATT
Skin and eviscerate the RATT.
Split it lengthwise.
Fry until brown in a mixture of butter and peanut oil.
Cover with water, add tomatoes or tomato purée, hot red peppers, and salt.
Simmer the RATT until tender.
Serve with rice.
I was just into something totally different at the time that record came out. I guess I liked it well enough at the time but it didn't age well for me at all. If I never heard a G N' R song ever again I would be perfectly happy.
"Slayer could say like like G N'R and I still wouldn't like them. I just think they are insanely over rated."
totally not over rated, the first two GnR albums are hard rock classics, they are PERFECT rock and roll albums. I can see how you would not like them, especially if you don;t like axls voice.
"At least Faster Pussycat were kind of funny. Murph liked all this crap back then. I was forced to endure many nights of drunkeness in his El Camino listening to all of it. I'd be BEGGING to put in a C.O.C. tape or Anthrax or something and all he'd want to hear is Paradise City... over and over again. Oh, yeah, I just lumped G N'R in with all those other shit hair bands. They sucked just as much."
Murph and I would have gotten along great back then.
G N' R were no different. In fact worse maybe. They put out one decent record that sold a lot of copies and then put out a DOUBLE record of complete crap. One decent record with 3 good songs does not a great band make. Sorry.
At least Faster Pussycat were kind of funny. Murph liked all this crap back then. I was forced to endure many nights of drunkeness in his El Camino listening to all of it. I'd be BEGGING to put in a C.O.C. tape or Anthrax or something and all he'd want to hear is Paradise City... over and over again. Oh, yeah, I just lumped G N'R in with all those other shit hair bands. They sucked just as much.
I want to know what ever happened to the guys from London on the decline of western civilization II. 'It was a Russian winter in the USA!!!'. One of my first shows was Kiss, Winger and Slaughter together. Total grabage.
I used to work with the ex-guitarist of Pretty Boy Floyd. He had some stories.
Though he had no regrets and was a good pastry chef, in 1995 he was still hanging onto the glam rock thing. It was as if Nirvana had never happened, wiping all that stuff out in a week. On breaks he'd go get high in his IROC-Z and listen to Jackyl, who were pretty much the last hair metal band. Yes, they were the band with the chainsaw player.
We took him to see Napalm Death and Obituary, and he flipped. Had no idea that stuff was going on, and it blew his mind.
Some of the hair bands were actually halfway decent bands, with good influences, caught up in the trappings of a horrible trend because it was the thing to do at the time.
Kix was great.
And the Cinderella album is pretty good if you give it a chance.
"Guitarist Robbin Crosby was Mötley Crüe bassist Nikki Sixx's roommate for a while during the mid 1980s. It was Sixx who introduced Crosby to heroin, the drug that caused Crosby's death several years later."
RATT TO HEADLINE ATARFE VEGA ROCK FESTIVAL
We're pleased to announce that the ATARFE VEGA ROCK FESTIVAL,has confirmed RATT . The US Hard Rock Multi-platinum band will make a historic first appearance in Spain, so it'll be one of these concerts that you can only enjoy in the best and biggest European festivals. As you know, the festival will take place the 7th (Friday) and 8th of March (Saturday) 2008, inthe city of ATARFE (at 11 km from Granada, Andalusia - ). This is the billing after adding this last act: ANGELUS APATRIDA, BELPHEGOR, DANGER DANGER, DESTRUCTION, EXCITER, GRAVE DIGGER, KATATONIA, KORPIKLAANI, KOTIPELTO, MAYHEM, MY DYING BRIDE, RATT, SAXON, SLAUGHTER, SYMPHONY X, TRIBAL, UNLEASHED and WITHIN TEMPTATION.
This year the shows will be hold at "Coliseo Ciudad Atarfe", a modern covered Bullring, with all the facilities, that a music festival like the Atarfe Vega Rock Festival requires. Tickets can be bought now in these stores and sites: Carrefour, Fnac, Tipo Stores and www.ticktackticket.com
"Two days" tickets:
From 28th December to 1st February: 55 € + issue expenses.
From 2nd February to 6th March: 58 € + issue expenses.
At the festival: 65 € + issue expenses.
"Single day" tickets:
Friday: 45 € + issue expenses.
Saturday: 55 € + issue expenses.
Tickets for the Camping Area:
Until the 6th March: 3 € + expenses per tent.
At the Festival: 5€ + expenses per tent.
For more info about our festival, please visit the official websitewww.brmusic.net. We'll go on updating it, to let you find there, all you need to now about the Atarfe Vega Rock Festival.
Atarfe Vega Rock Festival – Press Department.
See I liked Ratt's first 2 albums but though bands like Poison and Warrant were way stupider and lamer. Ratt eventually smelled like someone pushing a turd around on a piece of wax paper and a calling it art.
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i bow to your expertise, mr. max.
i am a nerd, always have been. fine by me.
when it came to "metal" bands, in my crowd there were either good bands (heavy nasty scary loud driving, etc. etc.) and bad metal bands (ratt).
so, i'm not the connisseur you are.
unless you wanna talk about the sonics...
I disagree with Art Chantry on this one. Nobody I knew considered Ratt a metal band back in the day. They were a Hard Rock band. Like the rest of the Hair bands.
nerds ( not calling you a nerd, Art)who knew nothing of metal called those bands metal. But not us metal people.
The only possible metal clout Ratt might have is that they appeared on the first Metal Massacre compilation. But not all the bands on that comp were legit metal bands either. Maybe only Cirith Ungol and Metallica. But I guess all of thta shit is arguable as well.
many moons ago, when ratt first emerged, they were, indeed, a METAL band (by the definition of that era.) however, the term AND the music style has changed so much that they don't really fit TODAY's definition.
semantics, but accurate semantics.
but, ratt sucked then and they suck today. no argument, there.
denny... just like the bands... it doesn't seem like they evolved past the early 90s. Or, the work they do for these bands is done to suit them. Like this RATT poster. Give the client what they want...
I'm pretty sure that there is a very specific age, somewhere around 40-ish, where a designer either gets really cool or REALLY LAME. Many of these hair-metal-era-designers are hitting that REALLY LAME mark.
soo... an old business partner of mine got a brand new red mini truck about 15-18 years ago and made a stencil and painted RATT-N-ROLL in white on the black bumper.. annoyed the shit out of me the few times I rode in it or worse, drove it.
you would have loved it Cerdo.