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DESIGNER:
Florafauna  
VENUE:
First Avenue
Minneapolis
MN
USA
 
SUBMITTED BY:
PaulGardner
2007-04-17 11:19:47



 
BANDS:
Blonde Redhead
Midnight Movies



 
 
 

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Professor LaserSend Professor Laser a message :   Yay!   2009-04-30 14:51:25
RodeoSend Rodeo a message :   Yeah, i've got a horse skele poster from '03 too.   2009-04-30 08:50:58
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   YEAH DAWG!!!   2009-04-30 08:15:37
Evan MarnochSend Evan Marnoch a message :   "Double-edged wankery."
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  2007-10-20 09:59:11
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   I think I can sum it up for you Jimboyaka. PaulGardner>Everyone else.   2007-10-20 09:07:14
BlackBallSend BlackBall a message :   Paul has bad people skills. I like the picture, even if it's a tad bland for a rock poster.   2007-10-20 09:05:47
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   Yeah, I did a skeleton horse poster, too. At the same time Paul did his. Guess it's not that original of an idea.   2007-10-20 09:04:13
ROTATORSend ROTATOR a message :   I'm voting for my appropriated dead horse poster: http://www.gigposters.com/poster/70749_Deadboy_And_The_Elephantmen.html   2007-10-20 08:46:50
Seamus McClernanSend Seamus McClernan a message :   "7 more days!" "7 more days!" "7 more days!" "7 more days!" "7 more days!" "7 more days!" ...and the crowd goes wild.   2007-10-20 01:45:49
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   bump   2007-10-19 12:43:26
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   8========D   2007-10-19 08:31:02
The Bubble ProcessSend The Bubble Process a message :   8=>----------------   2007-10-18 14:09:02
JohnHowardSend JohnHoward a message :   PaulGardner Chris Bowman's rep? which one is florafauna? and who is Wallace Smith?   2007-10-18 13:48:55
JohnHowardSend JohnHoward a message :   PaulGardner Chris Bowman's rep? which one is florafauna? and who is Wallace Smith?   2007-10-18 13:43:23
Mark McCormickSend Mark McCormick a message :   chuttup!   2007-10-18 05:56:50
3d glassesSend 3d glasses a message :   what, no comments? oh wait didnt see them down there..   2007-10-18 04:27:55
JimboyakaSend Jimboyaka a message :   i like this poster, but can someone sum up what all the fighting is about?   2007-10-18 04:00:24
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   Sash broke da kommentz.   2007-10-18 03:32:39
SashSend Sash a message :     2007-10-18 03:30:34
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   Who are all these new names? I fear change.   2007-10-18 02:27:43
BrainiacSend Brainiac a message :   A vanilla poster like this is a great excuse to unleash the hounds of wankery.
If you get a serious crit from Art Chantry and piss in his face, you deserve to join the ranks of the chicken poster.
  2007-10-18 02:06:23
ozworkzSend ozworkz a message :   haha... yea I clipped mine tonight, cause I was wearing sandals out. but yea... wait... didn't you just partake? or is this even a conversation? nonetheless, its a shitload of comments. cheers.   2007-10-18 00:10:12
JephSend Jeph a message :   I refuse to partake in this conversation anymore...I've got toe nails that need some serious maintenance.   2007-10-18 00:05:10
ozworkzSend ozworkz a message :   wow 400 comments? I like assparagus burgers, rifles and wankery. and E=MC2'd, so I've been told. plus... wankery is a cool word. We in the U.S. have hereby adopted the word WANKERY!   2007-10-17 23:56:10
Evan MarnochSend Evan Marnoch a message :   Double-edged Wankery.   2007-10-17 16:39:12
Iron Canvas StudiosSend Iron Canvas Studios a message :   dang - over 400 now. I'm hungry   2007-10-17 14:57:18
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   my buzz is wearing off :(   2007-10-17 14:55:50
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   probably one the best danzig posters.   2007-10-17 14:54:04
John ASend John A a message :   I step away from the comments to breathe.   2007-10-17 14:51:55
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   LOOK AT ME! TOP USER! WHAT DO I WIN?
NOTHING?
OK.
I'M DONE!
  2007-10-17 14:44:48
msaputoSend msaputo a message :   Something smart.   2007-10-17 14:38:59
John ASend John A a message :   Bassahi Burger
Ingredients Restaurant Style Sesame Seed Hamburger Buns 1 LB Ground Horse Meat Mayonnaise Fresh Sliced Mushrooms Slices of Swiss Cheese 1 Onion 1/2 LB Bacon A1 Steak Sauce Lee Pearson's Worshire Sauce Lettuce Tomato Slices
Directions 1-Lightly Toast Burger Buns. 2-Place Meat In Large Mixing Bowl. 3-Cut Onion In 1/2 4-Take one half of onion and chop finely. 5-Place Chopped Onion in Mixing Bowl with Horse Meat. 6-Take other half of onion and Slice Onion Slices. 7-Take 1/2 Cup Of Lee Pearson Worshire Sauce A Place In Mixing Bowl. 8-Knead, and Mix Meat, Onion, & Sauce. 9-Form Medium Thickness Horse Meat Patties Out Of Mixture & Cook. 10-Saute' Onion Slices & Mushrooms On Stove Top. 11-Place Meat Patties On Bun & Top With Onion Slices, & Other Ingredients. 12-Top inside of bun with mayonnaise, and A1 sauce.
  2007-10-17 14:33:19
altieriSend altieri a message :   Once again I am commenting just to comment and ignore Mr. (?) Thief's request.   2007-10-17 14:28:29
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   no.   2007-10-17 14:27:16
frostbiteSend frostbite a message :   please stop   2007-10-17 14:26:40
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   This one's got a long way to go before it catches up with the Rifle Sport chicken.   2007-10-17 14:21:00
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   397   2007-10-17 14:18:56
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   Count von Count sez: "One! One more comment! Ah! Ah! Ah!"   2007-10-17 14:18:05
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   How do you feel abut asparagus?   2007-10-17 14:17:18
vertebrayusSend vertebrayus a message :   heh heh, sliced elvis,and your right, this poster is a lot like broccoli i like broccoli   2007-10-17 14:16:41
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   a bazzillion comments is what we should all strive for.
Quantity. Not quality.
  2007-10-17 14:15:39
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   No Dusty, it's really just not worth your time. That's all.
  2007-10-17 14:14:24
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   Okay, Paul. There's the old adage that you can't please everybody. You never will, nor will anyone else, so don't let it get you down if you wind up on someone's shit list. By the same token, don't let it go to your head if someone thinks you're the greatest thing since sliced Elvis. You won't be able to meet all your critics half way and find common ground: if they stay critical of you, so be it. Not everyone will like you, not everyone will like what you do or how you do it. Not everyone likes broccoli either. Don't sweat it, man. Whether people are patting you on the back or slapping you in the face, just be gracious about it and try to take some lesson away from the experience.   2007-10-17 14:10:06
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   im pretty sure that reading a thread on the internet isnt going to change my self image.   2007-10-17 14:09:16
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   If you are asking if I sharted, Jorge, the answer is no.   2007-10-17 14:05:34
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   So swampy did he smoooooth talk you till you were wet ?   2007-10-17 14:04:55
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   Surprisingly, he liked it. He said it tasted like cobra.   2007-10-17 14:04:27
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   Glad I could help.   2007-10-17 14:03:21
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   perfect, thanks Steve.   2007-10-17 14:02:55
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   What'd Bob think of the taste?   2007-10-17 14:02:28
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   E=MCsquared   2007-10-17 14:02:13
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   Dude, this thread is about Swampviking!   2007-10-17 14:01:48
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   Let's just say Bob doesn't like the smell of Summers Eve.   2007-10-17 14:01:29
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Dusty, I strongly recommend you don't read this entire thread. You wont feel good about yourself. My aggressive commenting is only a result of defense. Wow, I wish someone would attempt to say something smart here, kinda like Art did. That would make my day.   2007-10-17 14:00:22
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   Was he gentle?   2007-10-17 13:59:16
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   I went to a Bob Mould interview last night. I think he was hitting on me.   2007-10-17 13:57:54
RobSend Rob a message :   i just threw my beret in the air.
i feel good.
  2007-10-17 13:57:48
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   I miss Husker Du.   2007-10-17 13:56:25
kozikSend kozik a message :   Who can turn the world on with her smile? Who can take a nothing day, and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile? Well it's you girl, and you should know it With each glance and every little movement you show it
Love is all around, no need to waste it You can have a town, why don't you take it You're gonna make it after all You're gonna make it after all How will you make it on your own? This world is awfully big, Swampy this time you're all alone But it's time you started living It's time you let someone else do some giving
Love is all around, no need to waste it You can have a town, why don't you take it You're gonna make it after all You're gonna make it after all
  2007-10-17 13:55:49
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   get a haircut hippie   2007-10-17 13:55:35
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   I like to let my hair down sometimes. Unless it's that time of the month. Then I leave it in a bun.   2007-10-17 13:55:25
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   You must have some long-ass pubes.   2007-10-17 13:55:24
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   I like to let my hair down sometimes. Unless it's that time of the month. Then I leave it in a bun.   2007-10-17 13:54:48
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   I bet Swamps is relieved not to be chased by pelicans anymore.   2007-10-17 13:54:32
kozikSend kozik a message :   Swampy's not afraid to wear white pantsuits anymore.   2007-10-17 13:52:51
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   RULZ!   2007-10-17 13:51:42
kozikSend kozik a message :   Paul-Richies comments ar emerely part of his shoddily constructed 'persona'.
He's a bitter art school drop-out who is just looking for love.
Unortunatley, the venues he chooses for that quest are public urinals. He hasn't really been himself since Elroi Spratling dumped him for Jermaine.
  2007-10-17 13:50:20
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   I smell like Summers Eve.   2007-10-17 13:49:04
john_e_warnerSend john_e_warner a message :   yay 300   2007-10-17 13:48:43
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   I've been wondering: do you smell like either a swamp or a viking?   2007-10-17 13:48:37
kozikSend kozik a message :   'Freshness'   2007-10-17 13:48:29
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   If ya got it, floss it.   2007-10-17 13:48:04
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   zing   2007-10-17 13:47:24
kozikSend kozik a message :   I like the new Swampgina.   2007-10-17 13:47:20
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   Can we talk about me for about 20 or so of the next posts?   2007-10-17 13:46:26
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   Well, i havent read this whole thread, and only bits and pieces of other threads that you've posted in but you come off as very combative... Let Richie's shit go, and dont fight over every comment. There is good feedback and bad feedback, part of your job as a designer is to sort through and figure out which you need to take to heart and which you need to set aside. There is no reason, especially on a message board to go head to head with folks over every little thing. You wont come out ahead, no one will.   2007-10-17 13:44:34
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Hmm... seems to me "tact" in nearly non-existent in these parts. And your right, a tough crit. will probably never happen on this site for many obvious reasons. But like I was saying before, we are having a good time. Well, sorta.   2007-10-17 13:36:41
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I've taken some of your crit to heart... so there.
"WWRGTD?"
  2007-10-17 13:23:55
ASPrintingPressSend ASPrintingPress a message :   I like getting crits, even if they are not asked for. Please see the Willowz series thread.   2007-10-17 12:56:51
john_e_warnerSend john_e_warner a message :   yay   2007-10-17 12:50:49
bathroom monkeySend bathroom monkey a message :   mrblonde can read?   2007-10-17 12:49:15
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   it feels funny   2007-10-17 12:41:06
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   RULZ   2007-10-17 12:39:55
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   WHY AM I READING ALL OF THIS   2007-10-17 12:39:12
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   And I was saying that Paul is an idiot. We're on the same page, Dusty.   2007-10-17 12:37:31
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I've taken some of your crit to heart... so there.
"WWRGTD?"
  2007-10-17 12:36:41
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   i think we're talking about paul here.   2007-10-17 12:36:34
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Just because I think you're all idiots, it doesn't mean that I don't understand that you have idiot opinions.   2007-10-17 12:35:56
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I know... just sayin'...   2007-10-17 12:35:52
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   tough crits never work on this site. they turn into 300 post whining matches cause no once can respect that other folks have different opinions. Some dudes need some thicker skin.   2007-10-17 12:33:48
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   "Tough crit is fine just, you know show some respect while doing it." I'd say that's key. Definitely.   2007-10-17 12:32:17
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I think he might be borderline retarded...or maybe some sort of a savant.   2007-10-17 12:27:31
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   Indeed.   2007-10-17 12:25:57
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   The problem is that Paul lacks a thing called "tact" Tough crit is fine just, you know show some respect while doing it.   2007-10-17 12:22:53
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I honestly wish more people would give tough crit so when it does happen people don't get their panties in such a wad and go into full on attack mode.
How many times do we need to see "RULZ!" ? What does that do for anybody besides cause increased blood flow to the penis?
  2007-10-17 12:21:10
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I think Paul gets a tougher crit because he gives out tough crit. Gotta be able take what you dish out.
  2007-10-17 12:18:17
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   Hye Richie!   2007-10-17 10:34:23
3d glassesSend 3d glasses a message :   "I gather he's more of an art director than a poster artist... farming out illustration AND printing. Not that there's anything wrong with that... Just sayin'." i just assumed they were all his own work.. but i agree, theres nothing wrong with that.. all the negative points people have brought up about for this poster, could be said for many many posters on this site its just that it seems paul isnt a very popular guy here, so he gets his balls busted.. oh well.. lets remember, its just a poster   2007-10-17 10:15:57
msaputoSend msaputo a message :   I can't read anymore. The words are getting too jumbled.
Myxlplyx.
  2007-10-17 09:58:31
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   "Paul Gardner seems to be a very good poster artist"
I gather he's more of an art director than a poster artist... farming out illustration AND printing.
Not that there's anything wrong with that... Just sayin'...
  2007-10-17 09:33:16
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Justin! That's his finger!   2007-10-17 09:24:23
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   BUM!P!   2007-10-17 09:22:06
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Having a good time? This is my full-time job. Clay pays me per post. Aren't you guys in on this too? Don't tell me you are doing this FOR FREEE?   2007-10-17 09:21:02
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I heard all you did was choose the paper color.   2007-10-17 09:20:01
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Ok, we sure do have a lot of comments here. A lot of which are pure hog wash but whatever - We're all havin' a good time, right?   2007-10-17 09:16:54
john_e_warnerSend john_e_warner a message :   the rule is....rules that are made up here at gp apply to some people and don't for others, it just depends on who you are
then end
  2007-10-17 07:55:32
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   somehow, yet again, Paulgardner has managed to get us all to give him 300 comments on his poster. Yikes.   2007-10-17 07:31:49
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   true story , Hynes told me that after he's done making all this mad poster bucks he's gonna start a tamale cart operation back in the " old country "   2007-10-17 07:28:10
B-DROIDSend B-DROID a message :   I'm waiting for the perfect job to find ME!!   2007-10-17 07:26:13
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   "you have a good job" . . . . . . You should try it. I can get you a couple shifts if you want.   2007-10-17 07:19:51
B-DROIDSend B-DROID a message :   And you have a good job at the Burger Shack, everyone here is real proud of you Phoon. You keep proving us wrong!   2007-10-17 07:15:50
perkinsSend perkins a message :   I have to admit I like that Gardner doesn't tuck and run.   2007-10-17 07:10:20
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   I wear blue socks over my loafers and people call me Soda Pop.   2007-10-17 07:02:15
vertebrayusSend vertebrayus a message :   everything south of kentucky should be called "coke" even if it's a pepsi   2007-10-17 06:59:08
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   Phjoondaddy dsays "POP " instead of Soda   2007-10-17 06:53:35
B-DROIDSend B-DROID a message :   Phoondaddy wears loafers and blue socks.   2007-10-17 06:42:17
phoondaddySend phoondaddy a message :   B-DROID is irrelevant to me. Face!   2007-10-17 06:10:30
Jared DavidsonSend Jared Davidson a message :   Which could be said about a lot of work on this site... but yeah I agree with you in this example, however I don't think it should be the only critique of this poster. As a designer who can't draw for shit I tend to use sourced material, but I see your point in how Paul has used his.   2007-10-17 06:09:19
B-DROIDSend B-DROID a message :   The fact that he had nothing to do with such a key part of this poster is relevant to me. Eliminate the illo and you have shit.   2007-10-17 06:03:42
Jared DavidsonSend Jared Davidson a message :   isn't one of the designers task to arrange, whether it be type or illustartion, clip art etc etc? The fact he didn't draw these is irrelevant. This isn't Illo of the week, its for the overall design. Plus he credited those who did draw these...   2007-10-17 05:44:14
3d glassesSend 3d glasses a message :   oh i didnt realise he didnt do the illustration..   2007-10-17 04:54:56
B-DROIDSend B-DROID a message :   meh...the best thing about this poster is the illo, which Paul had nothing to do with.   2007-10-17 04:48:33
Evan MarnochSend Evan Marnoch a message :   This thread is pure wankery.   2007-10-17 04:09:34
3d glassesSend 3d glasses a message :   my 2 pence. -Paul Gardner seems to be a very good poster artist, and this is really cool. -Wether or not he riles people in the forums etc shouldnt dictte what you think of his work. -A lot of people are probably pissed off that they havnt got POW and he did. - Some people like some things that others dont. thats all   2007-10-17 04:07:04
BrainiacSend Brainiac a message :   Wait, why isn't the skeleton praying?
It must be because the "designer" is a huge hose fan. He rides em a lot, I guess.
I agree with Richie.
  2007-10-17 03:54:55
ItamimasuSend Itamimasu a message :   http://idak.ytmnd.com/   2007-10-16 22:24:25
perkinsSend perkins a message :   Joe Yeats maybe.   2007-10-16 21:46:07
SquirtSend Squirt a message :   Wow Yeats...that makes me think of... http://www.kitchensink.com/   2007-10-16 19:35:26
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   yeah that DOES make the think of Yeats.   2007-10-16 17:05:03
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   "...the quality of his work is directly but oppositely proportional to the quality of his personality, so it really polarizes people..." Brings to mind Yeats. "Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand; Surely the Second Coming is at hand. The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert A shape with lion body and the head of a man, A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun, Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds. The darkness drops again; but now I know That twenty centuries of stony sleep Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?"
-- William Butler Yeats
  2007-10-16 16:44:05
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I sit at zero. I don't hate Paul and am unimpressed by his works.
I find the whirlwind of drama kicked up by each of his posters to be thoroughly entertaining.
  2007-10-16 15:53:55
seireyhoSend seireyho a message :   i like u FG   2007-10-16 15:50:44
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   Paul is a special case because the quality of his work is directly but oppositely proportional to the quality of his personality, so it really polarizes people. You hate him but like his posters.
In my case people hate both! Nice and simple!
  2007-10-16 15:44:55
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   Whoa , Chuck got cable TV   2007-10-16 13:57:18
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   "MAAAAAANNNNSONNNNNNNN..... COME, MANDSON, COME.....   2007-10-16 13:19:00
SquirtSend Squirt a message :   James T. Kirk: [shouts] KHHHHAAAAAAAAN! [echoes] KHHHHAAAAAAAAN!   2007-10-16 13:18:05
crosshairSend crosshair a message :   "Ho ho ho...Toy --- dook --- thee a g--- con thee bassa." (n/a) "Manchy kabook noonee Solo,," (It's too late for that Solo...) "makingsa lee ka bok bagthra..." (you may have been a good smuggler...) "beeska chata wnow kong bantha poodoo." (but now you're bantha fodder.) "Yassa nee choo." (Take him away.) "Lonto, kostlee aht nigh." (Bring her to me.) "Lonta bo anna ma toto, yaah..." (I'm sure.)   2007-10-16 13:16:01
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   the doctor: "you bumbling boobie! william, take that silly tin can away from me!"
will: "but, doctor! timmie's fallen down the well. it's manson's way of trying to help."
the doctor: "well, then. best call your father. he's so handsome!"
  2007-10-16 13:10:46
SquirtSend Squirt a message :   Khan Noonien Singh: Ah, Kirk, my old friend. Do you know the Klingon proverb that tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? [pause] It is very cold in space.   2007-10-16 13:06:37
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   danger! danger, will robinson! does not compute! DOES NOT COMPUTE!   2007-10-16 13:02:52
SquirtSend Squirt a message :   Spock: You proceed from a false assumption. I am a Vulcan. I have no ego to bruise. James T. Kirk: You're about to remind me that logic alone dictates your actions? Spock: I would not remind you of that which you know so well. If I may be so bold, it was a mistake for you to accept promotion. Commanding a starship is your first, best, destiny. Anything else is a waste of material. James T. Kirk: I would not presume to debate you. Spock: That is wise. In any case, were I to invoke logic, logic dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. James T. Kirk: Or the one. Spock: You're my superior officer. You are also my friend. I have been, and always shall be yours.   2007-10-16 12:49:18
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKtBAzZo_nk"
God damn that band is boring.
  2007-10-16 12:05:34
JohnnyJackSend JohnnyJack a message :   "ha ha this is like watching a perpetual circle jerk"
You've watched a circle jerk!?
  2007-10-16 12:03:47
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   stop touching my penis.   2007-10-16 11:52:18
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   christ. i leave a discussion and look what happens!
i'm moving in.... i'll set up a cot over there next to philaarts.
  2007-10-16 11:08:14
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   THIS, sir, is no chicken.   2007-10-16 07:57:01
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   Many.   2007-10-16 07:44:57
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   Because this one is getting a lot.   2007-10-16 07:44:39
9pod9Send 9pod9 a message :   So what's the record for most comments on a single poster?   2007-10-16 07:44:24
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKtBAzZo_nk   2007-10-16 07:19:01
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   mauve?   2007-10-16 07:06:49
John ASend John A a message :   stfu mayer   2007-10-16 06:55:25
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i like paul... he doesnt roll over as fast as other designers.. for that, he can wear his pink shirt another week.   2007-10-16 06:51:10
Nicholas WilsonSend Nicholas Wilson a message :   8ball Delivers! Thank you!   2007-10-16 06:19:44
8ballSend 8ball a message :   Blonde Redhead Martini ---------------------- Ingredients: 3/4 oz Vanilla Stoli 1/4 oz Chambord 1 1/2 oz dry champagne 1 1/2 oz 7-up Splash of lemon juice Pink-tinted sugar Chilled martini glass Pink grapefruit slices Martini shaker
Method: Place pink sugar on flat plate. Run the edge of grapefruit slice around the rim of the chilled martini glass and then dip the moistened rim into the mixture and rotate the glass until evenly coated. Set aside while making the martini. In a martini shaker with ice, add vanilla Stoli and Chambord; shake well. Pour into chilled martini glass. Top off with champagne and 7-up. Squeeze in a splash of lemon. Garnish with a slice of pink grapefruit.
  2007-10-16 02:53:05
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   I thought this was a poster for Wilco Neko Kiley and her Watson Boyfriends not some too-hip eurotrash Sonic Youth ripoff.   2007-10-16 01:36:28
piemelSend piemel a message :   I can recognize a goodtimes poster from 100 feet away
These designery posters could have been done by any number of 'studios'
It makes them uninteresting to me ... no matter how good/bad the design is
  2007-10-16 01:02:14
Evan MarnochSend Evan Marnoch a message :   ...what john_e_warner said.   2007-10-15 23:58:57
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Bones alone do not a great poster make, Mr. August.   2007-10-15 23:57:00
ryanaugustSend ryanaugust a message :   got bones, so it's cool with me.   2007-10-15 23:53:09
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   "It may be that those posters didn't represent the band so well. Or not. I don't know."
no, It's just that some posters are good and at the same time represent the band. I can set aside my dislike for a band or a designer when things marry up. I'm all "evolved" and shit.
  2007-10-15 23:26:01
JephSend Jeph a message :   Only Brendan Jordan can save the gigposter scene as we know it....quick someone get on the BrendanPhone   2007-10-15 23:13:34
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   I like Jeff Lamm and Brendan Jordan.   2007-10-15 22:57:24
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   yeah, but i LIKE brendan jordan.   2007-10-15 22:40:54
naduvalSend naduval a message :   the spoon poster i printed tonight came out AWESOME.   2007-10-15 21:27:33
soupsandwichSend soupsandwich a message :   I had 8 hours of TASER training today, it was awesome.   2007-10-15 21:22:56
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   deforgeo that's what you get for being NXTLVL.   2007-10-15 21:20:11
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   Many years ago today Something grew inside of your mother That thing was YOU!
YOU!
You! You! You! You! Did she scream? Did she cry? Only those that are born are ones that get to die!
One more year closer to dying Body, organs ripping, rotting, Biological Discordance Birthday equals self-abhorrance R.S.V.P. Please For the death of thee You have little time You're running out of life
Happy... Birthday... You're gonna die! Die, Die! Deth Day! Birthday, Deth Day! Die Die! Deth (Deth) Day! Birthday, Deth (Deth) Day! Die-die, Deth-day Birth-day, Deth-day!
  2007-10-15 21:15:37
deforgeoSend deforgeo a message :   I wish I made "controversial" posters with lots of comments on them.   2007-10-15 21:14:14
Nicholas WilsonSend Nicholas Wilson a message :   in 250+ comments, i'm mildly upset that there are no recipes. seriously?   2007-10-15 21:12:34
john_e_warnerSend john_e_warner a message :   ha ha this is like watching a perpetual circle jerk   2007-10-15 21:06:45
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   I was tired of my lady, we'd been together too long. Like a worn-out recording, of a favorite song. So while she lay there sleeping, I read the paper in bed. And in the personals column, there was this letter I read:
"If you like Pina Coladas, and getting caught in the rain. If you're not into yoga, if you have half-a-brain. If you like making love at midnight, in the dunes of the cape. I'm the lady you've looked for, write to me, and escape."
I didn't think about my lady, I know that sounds kind of mean. But me and my old lady, had fallen into the same old dull routine. So I wrote to the paper, took out a personal ad. And though I'm nobody's poet, I thought it wasn't half-bad.
"Yes, I like Pina Coladas, and getting caught in the rain. I'm not much into health food, I am into champagne. I've got to meet you by tomorrow noon, and cut through all this red tape. At a bar called O'Malley's, where we'll plan our escape."
So I waited with high hopes, then she walked in the place. I knew her smile in an instant, I knew the curve of her face. It was my own lovely lady, and she said, "Oh, it's you." And we laughed for a moment, and I said, "I never knew"..
"That you liked Pina Coladas, and getting caught in the rain. And the feel of the ocean, and the taste of champagne. If you like making love at midnight, in the dunes of the cape. You're the love that I've looked for, come with me, and escape."
"If you like Pina Coladas, and getting caught in the rain. If you're not into yoga, if you have half-a-brain. If you like making love at midnight, in the dunes of the cape. You're the love that I've looked for, come with me, and escape."
  2007-10-15 21:06:07
motownjcSend motownjc a message :   posters are cool. i like them.   2007-10-15 21:05:15
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   I close my eyes Only for a moment, then the moment's gone All my dreams Pass before my eyes, a curiosity Dust in the wind All they are is dust in the wind
Same old song Just a drop of water in an endless sea All we do Crumbles to the ground, though we refuse to see Dust in the wind All we are is dust in the wind, ohh
Now, don't hang on Nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky It slips away And all your money won't another minute buy Dust in the wind All we are is dust in the wind All we are is dust in the wind Dust in the wind Everything is dust in the wind Everything is dust in the wind The wind
  2007-10-15 21:03:39
wallySend wally a message :   i know   2007-10-15 21:03:10
John ASend John A a message :   I've done plenty you asshat. I need not specify, those that need to know, do know.   2007-10-15 21:02:31
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   KONG DO GOOD IN PAST   2007-10-15 20:59:34
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   yes, its all about me. ALWAYS. never forget that. OK? - As soon as I saw there was going to be posters up for auction, I planned to contribute. I may buy even more. I'll be donating some prints too. Who knows? What have you done John A?   2007-10-15 20:55:29
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   not since the days of Brendan Jordan...   2007-10-15 20:52:59
uglybogusSend uglybogus a message :   I like richie.   2007-10-15 20:49:56
john_fuzSend john_fuz a message :   I am sooo sorry I tried to hijack this thread earlier. It is now my fifth favorite batch of comments on here.   2007-10-15 20:48:27
John ASend John A a message :   OMG... you bought the poster for whom though?
the bottom line is always the same it seems.
  2007-10-15 20:40:12
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Hey, look at that. I just bought me a nice SPOON print by AA. for $213.50. on Ebay. The proceeds go to Clay to help support this here site.   2007-10-15 20:36:29
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   "it just wouldn't make sense if you LOVED a poster for a band you don't give a shit about. " "I often like posters for bands I don't give a shit about."
It may be that those posters didn't represent the band so well.
Or not.
I don't know.
  2007-10-15 20:26:19
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Yes, weird concept. huh?   2007-10-15 20:24:52
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   you raise the price based on the supply you have left? Ooof!!   2007-10-15 20:24:23
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   This is $30 because they are almost gone. Gay.   2007-10-15 20:21:59
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   "it just wouldn't make sense if you LOVED a poster for a band you don't give a shit about. " I often like posters for bands I don't give a shit about.   2007-10-15 20:20:47
figbagSend figbag a message :   This is $30.00? Because of POTW? Seriously?
Gay.
  2007-10-15 20:17:47
JohnnyThiefSend JohnnyThief a message :   "altieri : I am commenting just to comment."
I am commenting on your comment for comment's sake. Keep your comments to yourself, Jimbo,....
POTW's are for fags.
  2007-10-15 20:17:32
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   I was hasseling Bowman this weekend about setting up a website. Even just a myspace page to get things started.
He's been drawing lots of owls lately and its awesome.
  2007-10-15 20:05:36
onefootSend onefoot a message :   hey lets make posters not because we like to, but because we need the attention   2007-10-15 20:05:17
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Oh my! HORSE. so sorry.   2007-10-15 20:03:19
JephSend Jeph a message :   there's alot of words below what I'm typing.   2007-10-15 20:00:42
Seamus McClernanSend Seamus McClernan a message :   "a huge hose fan. She rides em a lot, I guess"
  2007-10-15 20:00:27
ItamimasuSend Itamimasu a message :   Goodtimes is Kid Rock.   2007-10-15 19:56:28
HrabovskySend Hrabovsky a message :   Goodtimes likes Kid Rock.   2007-10-15 19:53:58
ozworkzSend ozworkz a message :   "ya know, this big debate about whether a gigposter has to be "appropriate " for the band or not seems to been settled about 20,000 gigposters ago. the answer seems to be, "no". you can take about that many of the posters on this sight and replace them with band names from any of them at total random and have exactly the same results. in fact, often when a poster artist actually tries to make it appropriate, it turns out to be a much higher criticized poster because the actual lameness of the particular band in question dominates the concept of the poster. gigposters only have to express the correct ATTITUDE to be effective. as far as real concept goes, it's pretty much "whatever." that's the observation i'm ending up with over and over." -art
I totally agree with this. One word, arbitrary.
"I actually like this poster...so I commented. It's way better than any of Richie's." -kozik
I also agree with this. I am nobody and my opinions mean nothing here so you don't have to repeat this.
  2007-10-15 19:52:41
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Well, ok then. That I can understand. This is why we work so well together.   2007-10-15 19:43:26
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Fucking with the 'Paul Gardner Universe' is a fun game for me.
I'm an asshole. Is this news?
  2007-10-15 19:42:12
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   It's not complicated. I get that. (he seems like an ok guy in person). But...you know, two different worlds...RIGHT?   2007-10-15 19:35:17
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I can't stand Paul Gardner.
Is that complicated?
  2007-10-15 19:32:16
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Here's what I don't understand. Richie, why do you care about these posters for bands you don't care about in the first place? I'm pretty sure I've said it before but it just wouldn't make sense if you LOVED a poster for a band you don't give a shit about. Two different worlds. That's it.   2007-10-15 19:31:29
Ink Eye StudiosSend Ink Eye Studios a message :   I kinda dig this poster. What makes it cool beyond my own personal tastes is that you can debate whether or not it is a good design piece. It obviously has caught people's attention to dissect it to figure out why the collective should dislike it or accept it.   2007-10-15 19:29:51
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   pre jaw break Kazu could really scream , but when they tour they take time out for riding horses   2007-10-15 19:29:19
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Mr. Bowman does not have a site. he's very affraid of the computer. So it may never exist. A shame, huh?   2007-10-15 19:28:03
AngryblueSend Angryblue a message :   what is chris bowman's website? i can't seem to dig it up.   2007-10-15 19:27:06
AngryblueSend Angryblue a message :   what is chris bowman's website? i can't seem to dig it up.   2007-10-15 19:26:19
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I disagree.   2007-10-15 19:25:42
kozikSend kozik a message :   I actually like this poster...so I commented. It's way better than any of Richie's.   2007-10-15 19:23:17
altieriSend altieri a message :   I am commenting just to comment.   2007-10-15 19:21:16
RisingSon™Send RisingSon™ a message :   "a huge hose fan. She rides em a lot, I guess"
Wow
  2007-10-15 19:12:54
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Kazu, of Blonde Redhead is a huge hose fan. She rides em a lot, I guess. One fine day, the horse she was riding bucked her off. She was injured real, real bad. She broke her jaw and the band was put on hiatus for 3 years.
So, Skeletons are a symbol death or danger. The girl riding it is the innocent pleasure.
The best thing is that I was unaware of this incident while making the decoration. I just thought the image fit the music well. There ya have it.
  2007-10-15 19:11:56
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   it's a chicken.   2007-10-15 19:06:30
John ASend John A a message :   I agree with pogue.   2007-10-15 19:04:27
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   dude ..way to fuck up the whole flow.   2007-10-15 19:03:01
john_e_warnerSend john_e_warner a message :   interesting, this poster is nice, the drawing is cool, and works well with the photo I like the type and the color scheme works very well
I think its an atractive poster that fits the band and is easy to read, its as good or better than most of the stuff on here mine included
if the band and the venue liked it then it has done its job
seems to me you all don't like paul so this its trashing time
meh
  2007-10-15 18:59:23
poguemahoneSend poguemahone a message :   what i don't get, and nobody has addressed, is if i can see through the horse why can't i see through the girl?
does she have no bones?
is she a ghost/cowgirl/spectre of some sort?
is she just being imagined by the horse?
please, it's hurting my brain.
  2007-10-15 18:57:10
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   And this is one of my girlfriends favorite bands so I'm gonna ask her what she thinks of it. She really like Peveto's posters so she just might be into this one as well!   2007-10-15 18:52:53
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   You can only imagine, Frank. It's glorious.   2007-10-15 18:52:20
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I really don't like this poster. But, that really shouldn't be very surprising to anyone.   2007-10-15 18:50:12
kozikSend kozik a message :   well dude, your wrong. this is an awesome poster. and since, my opinion is th eonly one that really matters. its back to urinal direct to web porn for you.   2007-10-15 18:50:09
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   It's an ad for a concert that you can buy.   2007-10-15 18:50:06
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I'd lower that wager to 'got pity fucked once to get him to shut up.'   2007-10-15 18:49:19
kozikSend kozik a message :   I bet the dude that designed this poster gets mad pussy.   2007-10-15 18:48:02
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   This here is an art-ad-momento-decoration. only $30.   2007-10-15 18:47:52
poguemahoneSend poguemahone a message :   "when fantasygoat can call you a douche and have it stick.... you are TRULY a douche." - new signature   2007-10-15 18:47:40
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Fisher just said you keep 'designing' the same poster repeatedly and you should stick to lame indie rock bands.   2007-10-15 18:47:18
kozikSend kozik a message :   the day when Buzz finally says-no more posters with that gay dude on em is the day rihie is gonna cry cry cry cry 96 tears.   2007-10-15 18:46:29
kozikSend kozik a message :   migas fuckin rule. I havent had a good plae of them in a while. Ilike the ones that make you gassy all day.   2007-10-15 18:45:46
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   fisher just said your posters suck Goodtimes   2007-10-15 18:45:20
john_e_warnerSend john_e_warner a message :   i like this ALOT   2007-10-15 18:45:11
bdixSend bdix a message :   did y'all happen to catch my thread about migas?   2007-10-15 18:44:31
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   $30 price tag says its art.   2007-10-15 18:43:45
kozikSend kozik a message :   its the fish your new girlfriend is secretly putting in your food mike, it's mellowing you out.   2007-10-15 18:43:29
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Well, it's not art. It's an ad for a concert.   2007-10-15 18:43:21
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   This is one of the better threads I can remember. It seems almost impossible that I agre with almost everyone at THE SAME TIME!!
*Mind Blowzn*
  2007-10-15 18:42:51
kozikSend kozik a message :   geof and richie are so gay for each other it hurts.   2007-10-15 18:42:49
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I don't like that one poster you keep 'designing' repeatedly.   2007-10-15 18:42:19
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   I don't like many of your posters goodtimes. maybe one or two tops...
bunch of cock rock self circle jerkin crap.
  2007-10-15 18:41:28
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I don't think the persona can be separated from the art.   2007-10-15 18:41:20
kozikSend kozik a message :   so what. poster rules. end of story.
  2007-10-15 18:41:19
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   It's a fine poster. People are hung up on Paul not having the most likeable online persona.   2007-10-15 18:40:32
kozikSend kozik a message :   my 2 cents: this poster rocks, I dont even care what band its for.
it looks great. all your yapping is just jealous douchebaggin in the tea house.
  2007-10-15 18:38:43
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I'm coming out of retirement. I am working on three posters as we speak. They are not very good at all.   2007-10-15 18:38:17
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Here's the punchline to the 'I put myself on posters' joke.
PEOPLE LIKE THEM.
  2007-10-15 18:37:56
seireyhoSend seireyho a message :   ha!   2007-10-15 18:37:52
kozikSend kozik a message :   I have no idea what lame shit this thread is about, but this poster is friggin AWESOME. any one who doesnt like it is probably really into Reggae and urinal sex.   2007-10-15 18:36:04
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   It seems everyone is making at least a little bit of sense! Oh my.   2007-10-15 18:35:42
Jared DavidsonSend Jared Davidson a message :   I had an exhibition recently of my prints, including Pauls Wilco poster. Most feedback placed that print as one of their favourites. Whether it was the design or the band, I'm unsure, but the fact is the general audience really liked it, regardless of the design theory involved...
I'm not defending this design, but sometimes the general punters don't give a fuck about most the things we are concerned with. Like Art said "its purty..." and Paul has tapped into that. Good or bad? your call. Good thread though.
  2007-10-15 18:35:30
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   thus a balance is stricken!
you still suck . let's not sugar coat that with pleasantries
  2007-10-15 18:35:15
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I am so much better at making rock posters than you, Peveto...it's ridiculous.
You're way better than me at that generic indie rock stuff, though...so there's still a place for you.
Yuppies need safe art, too. You provide a valuable service for boring people!
  2007-10-15 18:33:54
Jared DavidsonSend Jared Davidson a message :   I had an exhibition recently of my prints, including Pauls Wilco poster. Most feedback placed that print as one of their favourites. Whether it was the design or the band, I'm unsure, but the fact is the general audience really liked it, regardless of the design theory involved...
I'm not defending this design, but sometimes the general punters don't give a fuck about most the things we are concerned with. Like Art said "its purty..." and Paul has tapped into that. Good or bad? your call. Good thread though.
  2007-10-15 18:33:31
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   a few times. he screws the pooch ALOT. They are produced immaculately but they are lousy.   2007-10-15 18:33:00
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Richie, no shit. We all realize you HATE conventional graphic design. Good fer you. I do understand that the rock posters you make are some strange "extention" of you, or whatever. That's fine. It's great that you "understand" everything without even trying. No one is trying to be an intelect, except maybe Art. Which is fine. He does it well. You say things that are so opinion baised, that in my book, when you talk it doesn't even matter or even make sense, really. So go over to the mirror and snap another photo of yourself. Ok?   2007-10-15 18:32:42
kozikSend kozik a message :   I think we need more rules and categories.
art=fascism.
  2007-10-15 18:32:37
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Richie is an astoundingly good rock poster designer. Can't dispute that.   2007-10-15 18:31:05
john seaburySend john seabury a message :   I just got here,sorry I'm late. This is hilarious.   2007-10-15 18:26:11
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   richie sucks. pay him no mind. he's an awesome production guy. Lousy poster maker.
A good designer should never think they are good or they are done. Don't ever believe your own hype.
  2007-10-15 18:25:42
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I don't make the graphic designs, fucktard.
I make rock posters. If you're looking for some mystical design truth in my work...well then you're looking in the wrong place.
Some things can't ever be learned. Some things are there or they are not.
I'm smarter than you. FACT. But I'm no fucking intellectual. Intellectuals make an attempt to understand. I don't have to make an attempt. I simply understand.
Your intellectual 'I wanna continue learning' bullshit isn't going to get you anywhere. I'm not here to challenge you to get better. Why bother? I don't believe its even feasible for you to understand what better is.
It's not inside you now. It's not gonna magically appear in the future. You're stuck being you.
  2007-10-15 18:22:30
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   richie's right. i'm outta here.   2007-10-15 18:22:02
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   I don't feel hurt. At all. I feel enlightened and hungry. That's about it. Your right I don't understand your point. I also don't take what you've said as nasy.
So I'm curious, once I do understand the point, what happens? Are all the masterful designers really aware that they are "Good Designers" again, I'm serious.
  2007-10-15 18:21:03
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   I step away from the mic to breathe   2007-10-15 18:19:11
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Attention paid!   2007-10-15 18:18:41
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   this is some of the best chatter Art has ever laid down here. pay attention..   2007-10-15 18:17:00
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   me, too.   2007-10-15 18:14:16
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   "I take a look that their work. And if that's any indication of what people (in general) desire, then I don't think I'm playing the right game."
Wow, we finally agree on something. Looking at most "design" I feel the same exact way.
  2007-10-15 18:13:43
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   paul -
who knows? someday, you might regret what you just said, ya know? i've been there, too.
i think in time, you'll not feel so hurt and will actually understand the point i'm trying to make. i'm not being nasty, but this is a lousy forum for attempting to explain something so hard to explain. it takes time. you'll understand eventually.
- art
ps - it's a very nice poster. really. you should be proud of it.
  2007-10-15 18:08:36
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Well Art, yer right. and my Ma was right too. ya never do stop learning. Not even Richie can deny that. "GREAT DESIGN" or "HORSE SHIT DESIGN" or something that falls in the middle, Labeling things is fuuuun.
Also, I think it's funny that you say a bunch of the folks here have been trying to pound the idea of what "good design" is into my skull. I hear what they are saying, but then I take a look that their work. And if that's any indication of what people (in general) desire, then I don't think I'm playing the right game.
  2007-10-15 18:04:17
Mark McCormickSend Mark McCormick a message :   my design instructor used to throw our work on the floor if he didn't approve. it took me three years to learn that i dont know shit. imma thrifty mutherfucker.   2007-10-15 17:51:53
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   max -
actually, no it's not. design is an area that one NEVER stops learning. the moment you kick back and think you have it dicked is precisely the moment you are over.
to be honest, 6-8 years o university level anything would turn you into and idiot. but, the point i'm trying to make is that design AT IT"S BEST (caps intentional) is a very difficult thing to do and just making things look cool and attractive and nice is only very very early level thinking. that's basically what a computer program does FOR you. design is much more than that.
look, i have nothing aginast this poster. hell, i'd hang it in my house - it would go very well in the living room. but is it truly GREAT DESIGN? no. without a doubt i say that.
the designer has some deep thinking to do before he gets design to the point of truly great work. needs 6-8 years of shk (school of hard knocks).
  2007-10-15 17:47:57
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   No...no...what Art is saying is that maybe with 6-8 more years of formal education in the design discipline you'd have a better understanding of why you suck and should quit.   2007-10-15 17:47:49
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Ok, got ya. So basied on that, true graphic design will blow minds and baffle even the said "experts". That's a pretty weird way to measure good design against decorative design. I'm not at all going for Hemingway here. I don't even really like looking at this anymore. I don't regret it. I'm just sick of it.
I also don't think 6-8 years of unversity level classes will necessarily generate a "good designer"
  2007-10-15 17:45:51
seireyhoSend seireyho a message :   I was just about to say that.   2007-10-15 17:43:37
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Thats how long it takes to learn that you don't know shit.   2007-10-15 17:43:01
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   6 to 8 years of University courses? That is insane.   2007-10-15 17:41:48
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   thank you, dusty.   2007-10-15 17:37:11
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   its contradictory because he was talking about 2 different standards. in standard a. i think he was just saying that visually it looks cool, a surface observation. in standard b. he was putting it in the context of graphic design as a whole and not just whether it looked pretty but whether it conveyed a message but more importantly would hold up down the line.   2007-10-15 17:35:49
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   ozworkz -
yer an idiot. shut up.
- art
there, that's not contradictory, is it?
i'm trying to say something simply and directly to help paul understand the point being pounded into his skull by several folks here. the problem is, it's not an easy thing to point out. that's why it's taught with 6-8 years of university level classes. at it's best, design is very difficult to knock out. this poster is just fine. but it ain't much simultaneously. there is no contradiction in that. just viewpoints.
  2007-10-15 17:35:37
Mark McCormickSend Mark McCormick a message :   i like art's description of design.
this image would be much stronger if it were cropped tightly.... but most generic images seem that way.
Skeleton = AWESOME!
  2007-10-15 17:34:31
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   graphic design is language. if this poster were a sentence, it would read like a surface description of some record other than the one produced by this particular band. but it would be written very nicely and the the verbage would appeal to you and make you think you understand what is being said. it would make you feel smart for having actually been able to read i. but, it's a generic piece the writer has used for dozens of reviews and just sort of sticks in a few new words and attributes to the band in question.
it certainly ain't hemingway, ya know?
  2007-10-15 17:30:32
piemelSend piemel a message :   at this point I am looking out the windo and ponder the question as to wether or not I should go outside and fish for striped bass... its raining but the below question is going to make my head hurt
besides striped bass tastes really good
watching richie and art and emek together in a room was funny... swampy screwed it all up though with his stupid sneakers
  2007-10-15 17:27:15
ozworkzSend ozworkz a message :   "ya know, this big debate about whether a gigposter has to be "appropriate " for the band or not seems to been settled about 20,000 gigposters ago. the answer seems to be, "no"."
"try this test - convert this design (in your mind) to b&w. then crop it tight - with no wide 'art print' margins. does it still make any sense at all for this band?"
This is contradictory.
  2007-10-15 17:26:57
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   I'm learning here, Art. Apparently I don't realize the difference. So what is design then? I'm serious.   2007-10-15 17:22:17
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   no, paul. i'm saying take it out of the current context of trendy design and start to eliminate the gimmicks. once you've taken a couple of them away, the actual design and concept are revealed to be little more than tricks that make you think it's more than it is. it's called "decoration" as opposed to "design". this is a highly decorative pievce and not a very high achieveing design piece. it's jes' "purtty" as all heck, though.
or don't you realize the difference?
  2007-10-15 17:19:15
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Debate? SRSLY?   2007-10-15 17:18:24
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   Skeleton = awesome. If I remember correctly, Blonde Redhead have an equine thing going on in one of their vids. I'm really adding nothing to this "debate", am I? Back to work.   2007-10-15 17:15:25
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Art, so yer saying that that little convert image to B&W, and crop in tight trick works on any "grade A" design? I don't understand. Why isn't every brilliant composition maped out like that?   2007-10-15 17:15:07
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   He's way too dumb to tell when he's being baited.   2007-10-15 17:14:36
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   this poster smacks of suppressed sexual frustration   2007-10-15 17:14:34
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   for real, i dont get why he gotta go on.   2007-10-15 17:11:36
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i just fired myself.   2007-10-15 17:11:33
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   phill -
no. but, i'm an american, and we trust in god around these parts.
  2007-10-15 17:11:01
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   The google search future potential clients do on Paul Gardner is gonna be AWESOME!
Every time you speak it gets a little better.
Nice work, genius!
  2007-10-15 17:09:36
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   you found god? good for you art!! i was praying for you.   2007-10-15 17:09:08
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   don't pick on richie. he'll eat you for breakfast. eyes closed. a wolverine in a shark's clothing. as god is my witness....   2007-10-15 17:06:48
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   paul.
shut up.
  2007-10-15 17:06:11
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Jesus Richie, you either have it out for me, or you reeealy see some potential. I can't figure it out. Yer pretty funny regardless.   2007-10-15 17:05:18
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   ok, here's some "straight talk":
if i were looking at this in one of my classes, i'd give it a "b" grade. it's competent, pretty, interesting to look at. it has a lot going for it. but. ultimately it's empty. this image is a generic image rendered with all the tricks that we currently accept as "attractive" in design (wide margins, 'designerly retro' typography, fashionably disturbing and ironic imagery, a pretty girl and a skeleton, absolutley JUST the right colors, etc. etc.) it's going to become a dead end cliche by the time we hit the next decade. it's totally OF the the moment with no 'legs' (ability to have a long shelf life) to the poster at all.
try this test - convert this design (in your mind) to b&w. then crop it tight - with no wide 'art print' margins. doe sit still make any sense at all for this band? or is it simply some cool looking image with any old band name at all tacked on it, centered at the bottom like a caption of a cartoon gag panel?
it falls apart almost instantly, right?
b+. maybe. actually, in my class, a 'c' (rather average).
class over.
  2007-10-15 17:04:25
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   If you need a point of reference on what a shitty designer is...check out the dude looking back at you from your bathroom mirror.
You have no soul. It shows in your posters. You're a part of the problem, not the solution. Go make greeting cards or some shit. You have nothing to offer here.
You suck and are incapable of not sucking.
  2007-10-15 17:01:42
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Hi there.   2007-10-15 17:01:10
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Oh yeah, I forgot how smart you are, Art. Thanks for being honest.   2007-10-15 17:00:48
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   hai paul!   2007-10-15 16:56:07
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   14 very purtty posters.
hmmmmm.... purtty.... hmmmmm..... donuts.... hmmmmm.... purtty....
  2007-10-15 16:54:39
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Richie, when you say "Shitty designers". I don't even know what that means in the below context. It makes no sense.
Art-I'll agree, there are many thousands of one-size-fits-all images that people create, with little, or no thinking behind them. That goes for many things, not just gigposters.
For now, I think it's ok to make images that are interesting to look at that maybe do nothing more than depict a mood or convey the attitude of the music. I think that's what makes a "good" gigposter. Sometimes is cool to "concept" the hell out of your design too. But what the hell do I know? I've only made 14 posters.
  2007-10-15 16:53:20
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   sky's up.   2007-10-15 16:51:51
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   sup art?   2007-10-15 16:47:56
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   phillus -
hey, i said, "i LIKED it". not, "i HATE it."
can't you read? geez!
it's purtty!
  2007-10-15 16:46:42
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   I like Blonde Redhead , they're no SONICS , but they're alright   2007-10-15 16:46:29
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   its poster of the week, i think haters need to take it up with that nazi clay.   2007-10-15 16:44:25
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   i like purtty. when things are purtty, i don't have to think.   2007-10-15 16:34:21
seireyhoSend seireyho a message :   hey sara!   2007-10-15 16:30:17
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Shitty designers can't make appropriate cool. If you attempt appropriate and end up with lame...then that's your fucking fault.
If you have no attitude of your own and try and mimic attitude...it shows and that is even lamer.
  2007-10-15 16:24:18
mixtapenostalgiaSend mixtapenostalgia a message :   i agree with Art first and Sei Rey second.
HEY ART AND SEI REY!!!ONEONE
  2007-10-15 16:19:09
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   This lacks the attitude of the band.   2007-10-15 16:18:57
seireyhoSend seireyho a message :   I think the issue is more that the folks don't like paul.   2007-10-15 16:15:21
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   ya know, this big debate about whether a gigposter has to be "appropriate " for the band or not seems to been settled about 20,000 gigposters ago. the answer seems to be, "no". you can take about that many of the posters on this sight and replace them with band names from any of them at total random and have exactly the same results. in fact, often when a poster artist actually tries to make it appropriate, it turns out to be a much higher criticized poster because the actual lameness of the particular band in question dominates the concept of the poster.
gigposters only have to express the correct ATTITUDE to be effective. as far as real concept goes, it's pretty much "whatever."
that's the observation i'm ending up with over and over.
  2007-10-15 16:12:23
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   dude. ramsays kitchen nightmares is on. l   2007-10-15 15:32:43
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Having actually seen and heard this band I can't for the life of me see how it fits them in any way. Aside from the fact that the band and this poster are fairly boring. But, boring in different ways. At least the band are semi interesting and doing their own thing. This is just boring and looks like a lot of other boring posters.
Easily my least favorite POW to date. And that is saying something.
  2007-10-15 15:28:33
perkinsSend perkins a message :   STFU FantasyGeek   2007-10-15 15:21:28
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   No. I fucking hate him.   2007-10-15 15:16:01
Iron Canvas StudiosSend Iron Canvas Studios a message :   woah, I'm not really feeling the vibe going on here as far as hatin on Paul. I think this started from him commenting on how he didn't like particularily care for some poster a while back, who cares - it's called an opinion right? From a design standpoint this is a nice poster, colors are nice, and it works.   2007-10-15 15:15:20
derekdealSend derekdeal a message :   ooh im going to write that one down dusty   2007-10-15 15:08:22
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   cantankerous, the whole lot of you   2007-10-15 15:06:02
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   By default I've already gone farther than you ever will.
So we're clear...you are a nobody. You just haven't realized it yet. The signs are there.
1. Passive aggressive victim stance.
2. Generally generic design style, unidentifiable from many others.
3. The band name could be changed to...Fuck...High on Fire, even...and this would still be the exact same poster, which isn't a rock poster, but an exercise in graphic wankery where the audience is expected to think you are the clever one and you've done the band a favor where in reality...the band has done you a favor for even allowing you to put their name on your eggshell paper.
4. You're a wimp and you're safe and you're generic. There are thousands of you. And to top it off...there are real life interesting people out there that do this boring shit better than you.
  2007-10-15 14:58:44
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   From whence did thus hatred emerge? I know there's some twin cities hate too but that's another podcast!!!!!   2007-10-15 14:55:20
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   Thats a very good question Zach. Nice poster BTW   2007-10-15 14:51:19
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   Where did the Paul hate come from? That first Wilco austrailian poster?   2007-10-15 14:48:22
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   "It's clear that a lot you you don't even want me here..." Everyone pull to the right, here comes the WAAAAAAAMBULANCE!   2007-10-15 14:46:38
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   Uh, yeah - Clay DOES need your $10, otherwise he wouldn't ask for it. Douche.   2007-10-15 14:44:01
JustinHeltonSend JustinHelton a message :   I love how every poster of Pauls has like 100 comments   2007-10-15 14:43:29
mono_666Send mono_666 a message :   hey guys, leave paul alone, go make fun of some of my posters, so I can get my first POTW   2007-10-15 14:35:51
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Point what out, the fact that I'm not a premium member? Oh stop it. It's clear that a lot of you don't even want me here, so why are you pushing so hard? I doubt it's cause Clay reeealy needs my $10. I'll support the GP site as I see fit. - OK, I'm done now. This is going nowhere. Good Day!
Oh, and keep the name-calling coming its umm... amusing.
  2007-10-15 14:32:41
PunchgutSend Punchgut a message :   hope u have insurance?   2007-10-15 14:30:51
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   What did the water truck say when it ran into the vinegar truck?   2007-10-15 14:26:48
John ASend John A a message :   when fantasygoat can call you a douche and have it stick.... you are TRULY a douche.   2007-10-15 14:23:53
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   Oh yeah, nice poster. Douche.   2007-10-15 14:20:47
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   Yeah, you say that NOW that everyone has pointed it out to you.
The fact that it took other people to point it out is the real point. Douche.
  2007-10-15 14:20:03
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   I am not a fan of Radiohead.   2007-10-15 14:19:11
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   How much did you pay for the new Radiohead album?   2007-10-15 14:17:34
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   "Yes, that is worth $10, Actually it's worth much more."   2007-10-15 14:15:51
Josh RickunSend Josh Rickun a message :   yeah! suck a dong. nice poster.   2007-10-15 14:12:34
fantasygoatSend fantasygoat a message :   The fact that you only thought about the direct benefits to YOURSELF first and not about doing right by Clay and the site that benefits you all the time in little ways, like the poster gallery, just shows what a monumental douchebag you are.   2007-10-15 14:12:04
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   Premium Membership is $10 a year. Having a hosted page of your artwork on site that's known to attracted collectors and through which you can sell your wares is not worth .83 cents a month to you? It's not really about the benefits you get from it (which are many) but the support you're giving Clay and in turn, the rest of the poster community. I really don't understand this whole reasoning about not throwing Clay a few bucks for his time and hard work.   2007-10-15 14:09:56
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Yes, that is worth $10, Actually it's worth much more. But it looks to be a free service for now. Did you pay more than $10 for your membership, Dirk? - I clearly stated that the offered features of a Premium Membership are not worth $10 to me. But twist my words into whatever you want. I don't mind.   2007-10-15 13:51:52
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   Dirk, it's just comments like that, that make Paul so special...to all of us.   2007-10-15 13:46:55
swampvikingSend swampviking a message :   They're in my top 8 on myspace.   2007-10-15 13:31:38
ricv64Send ricv64 a message :   friends with benefits are myspace friends of mine.   2007-10-15 13:20:30
HrabovskySend Hrabovsky a message :   Friends with benefits? Nice work poster artist #1256 of 1800 poster artists in Minneapolis.   2007-10-15 13:17:40
Dirk FowlerSend Dirk Fowler a message :   "but I'm not all that interested in the "benefits" of a Premium membership"
How about the fact that your website points back to your GP gallery? You use this website to promote your "business". Is that worth $10?
"It's not a big deal, really... Is it?" I think it is to a lot of folks.
  2007-10-15 12:57:58
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   I wonder who?   2007-10-15 11:11:03
John ASend John A a message :   I'll claim down like never.
two really strong illos on this poster, someone draws really well.
  2007-10-15 10:52:42
perkinsSend perkins a message :   Nice poster, jerky.   2007-10-15 10:51:59
Iron Canvas StudiosSend Iron Canvas Studios a message :   don't you guys have work to do?   2007-10-15 10:49:38
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   CLAIM DOWN I FOUWLED ONOONE!   2007-10-15 10:49:13
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   Well, no one is offering you $10, John. So, just calm down.   2007-10-15 10:48:32
John ASend John A a message :   If it was me I wouldn't take your ten bucks.   2007-10-15 10:47:09
PaulGardnerSend PaulGardner a message :   I understand that. Which is why Clay will get my $10. All I'm saying is that the offered "perks" don't really interest me, which is why I haven't jumped on it yet. It's not a big deal, really... Is it?   2007-10-15 10:46:10
VonDadaSend VonDada a message :   Best POTW thread EVAR!   2007-10-15 10:44:22