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DESIGNER:
Aesthetic Apparatus 
VENUE:
First Avenue
Minneapolis
MN
USA
 
SUBMITTED BY:
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message
2006-10-18 10:21:36
 
BANDS:
Hold Steady, The
Sean Na Na
Robot Boy
Evening Rig, The



Hold Steady Poster - First Avenue, Minneapolis - Aesthetic Apparatus



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Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   It's a mutton-finger made fer pointin'   2007-05-01 19:40:02
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   bulbous sausage fingah   2007-05-01 19:00:46
Steph NitroSend Steph Nitro a message :   this poster reminds me of those Jazz-album covers I threw out last week, kept the jazz though.... 342
  2006-11-17 06:49:21
frostbiteSend frostbite a message :   but you still haven't answered my question   2006-11-17 05:55:57
GregorySend Gregory a message :   oh i'm sorry! i'll try to do better - you hold down the comment boards, I'm going to go out and meet people...you know, those living things without avatars or blah blah blah   2006-11-17 05:47:33
frostbiteSend frostbite a message :   the poster or the controversy? please be more precise when posting comments. you can't just post any crap.   2006-11-17 03:58:44
GregorySend Gregory a message :   the classified was right, it was really annoying   2006-11-16 19:26:55
art chantrySend art chantry a message :   ha ha ha ha ha ha ha   2006-10-25 11:07:43
dethinkSend dethink a message :   Hahahaha...   2006-10-25 08:50:26
3d glassesSend 3d glasses a message :   cool poster! how come no comments?   2006-10-25 08:48:36
JohnnyThiefSend JohnnyThief a message :   333, half evil,...   2006-10-25 08:46:22
vibraniumSend vibranium a message :   RITCHIE...stop...all of this just to get me to come back and say something? It's so sweet, but come on...just send me a PM or something...this is a looong way to go.
AA rules, arguing is fun and peace out!
  2006-10-25 08:25:30
Thomas ScottSend Thomas Scott a message :   This poster is great, but I liked the Bible one even more. AA and The Hold Steady are both tops at what they do.   2006-10-24 18:00:54
AugSend Aug a message :   I don't have enough desk space to scroll down this comment page.
Great poster. Great band.
  2006-10-24 17:41:27
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   I think I'm going to write a research paper on how alike these posters really are.   2006-10-24 14:42:53
John ASend John A a message :   Cropping the boobs out of a photo makes the baby jesus cry.   2006-10-24 14:42:51
lil_tuffySend lil_tuffy a message :   can we switch the discussion back to here? It's much easier on the eyes.   2006-10-24 14:41:28
frostbiteSend frostbite a message :   l'origine du monde   2006-10-24 05:01:41
piemelSend piemel a message :   stretched vagina   2006-10-24 01:31:25
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   OOOF!   2006-10-24 00:17:22
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I listened to some of their new record on the internet. Reminds me of Randy Newman and Meatloaf.
Totally awesome. And I'm not kidding. I listened. That's what I took away from it.
  2006-10-24 00:15:10
strawberrylunaSend strawberryluna a message :   goodnight all you dark princes of wallpaper.   2006-10-23 22:58:56
ajosephbSend ajosephb a message :   should i care about this band?
I think i tried to once, but got bored
  2006-10-23 22:40:01
bdixSend bdix a message :   I'm still classifiying The Evil Tambourines as Electronic, Geoff.   2006-10-23 22:35:17
strawberrylunaSend strawberryluna a message :   RELATIVITY   2006-10-23 22:33:53
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   tell me what you know about The Hold Steady. You to Richie.
There are reasons this poster looks like it does.
We just did three posters for them. They are designery. Each one speaks to a different part of their music. You won't like them but fans flipped out when they saw them.
  2006-10-23 22:33:49
ajosephbSend ajosephb a message :   83%   2006-10-23 22:31:00
SalcanzonieriSend Salcanzonieri a message :   No one is saying anything about there being ONE style for all posters, far from it. I didn't see anyone say that, even Richie.
What people are talking about is the thought process behind making a poster, regardless of the style of the poster. (which is different than an artist haveing 'style').
The difference between being truly creative and being lazy and doing something that is just nice.
  2006-10-23 22:28:56
JephSend Jeph a message :   no,....nerds.   2006-10-23 22:20:04
JephSend Jeph a message :   so there...fucks.   2006-10-23 22:19:54
strawberrylunaSend strawberryluna a message :   anyone who thinks there is ONE style for all posters is a fucking idiot.
THEN END.
  2006-10-23 22:18:46
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   hi   2006-10-23 21:46:43
JephSend Jeph a message :   Did CCCP make an Essa Tikkanen reference at the begininning of this thread?!?!? That rules.   2006-10-23 20:53:17
JephSend Jeph a message :   310....jeez, take a few days off and BAM!!!!   2006-10-23 20:49:04
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   I'm tired of looking at Richie's and Peveto's posters.
Let's look at this here one again.
  2006-10-23 20:47:53
getoutoftheleftlaneSend getoutoftheleftlane a message :   The Giants are beating the Cowboys by 12 right now.   2006-10-23 19:55:06
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   I thought it was over sal.
this is like when my parents fight. it makes me want cry go hide no no
  2006-10-23 17:40:33
SalcanzonieriSend Salcanzonieri a message :   hey billy perkins - your posters are all great, obviously you know how to make a poster compelling AND have a style that attracts fans of your art, so you understand the process. It is a process.
(nothing against AA, just answering Billy from a pervious comment here)
By the way, saying this poster is nice or not has nothing to do with what Richie is asking.
  2006-10-23 17:38:51
b_turnerSend b_turner a message :   Shit! The Hold Steady rocks my ass. I think AA are two fine fellas. They make nice stuff. I do not object to an AA / Hold Steady poster one bit.   2006-10-23 17:18:00
altieriSend altieri a message :   Geoff does macrame? Hmm...cool.   2006-10-23 16:48:54
John ASend John A a message :   raisinettes please.   2006-10-23 16:43:10
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   I said stowE it.
our next batch of posters with give you an aneurysm.
  2006-10-23 16:39:38
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   more everything.   2006-10-23 16:39:38
MURPHYSend MURPHY a message :   STFU and get back to your macrame'Geoff   2006-10-23 16:38:23
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   No one's really made a compelling argument against my views either.   2006-10-23 16:37:54
goad74Send goad74 a message :   All I want to know is does Peveto really drive a PT Cruiser.   2006-10-23 16:36:54
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   Not to detract from your point, but you misspelled stow.
I think you're spelling it like Harriet Beecher Stowe, the author.
  2006-10-23 16:36:02
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   Stowe it goodtimes. Your definition of what a "rock" poster should be doesn't apply to every single poster made. Everyone gets that you don't like designer style. You are boring the jesus out of everyone on this topic and not even making a good argument for your own views. Come up with a more compelling pot to stir dipshit.
  2006-10-23 16:24:44
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   Yeah Goodentog... you're only helping them by increasing this poster's value with your posts.   2006-10-23 16:22:58
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   I'm starting to think you really do like this poster, Goodtimes. You just cannot stop yourself from posting. And that is wonderful.   2006-10-23 16:17:41
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   That's a really touching story.   2006-10-23 16:16:29
lil_tuffySend lil_tuffy a message :   My ex-gf used to get upset if I'd be selling posters and someone (usually not realzing that I'm the artist) would say that they thought it was stupid or gay or bad design or whatever. She'd be like "doesn't that piss you off?" and I'd go, "no. I only need 100 people to like this poster and then it's gone forever."   2006-10-23 16:08:11
sungoSend sungo a message :   I think this is good. I don't understand why I think it's good, I just do. I'm ok with that. That's just how I roll.   2006-10-23 15:58:58
RobSend Rob a message :   finally, the official word from ed.
  2006-10-23 15:41:59
bathroom monkeySend bathroom monkey a message :   i like the hand   2006-10-23 15:40:32
JimboyakaSend Jimboyaka a message :   it's good, nothing great. it's simple and gets the point across, though the text is kinda small. it's good to have these "designy" type posters to offset the ones of craptastic sketches of strange creatures puking out of their eyeballs and shit. not everything needs to be totally over the top. different strokes for different folks.   2006-10-23 15:37:52
RADARSend RADAR a message :   that video is tits, richie is really gonna hate my hank 3 poster.   2006-10-23 15:33:39
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   Well if you guys made it then it's FANTASTIC ALL READY!!!!!!!!   2006-10-23 15:30:10
MikeBarnSend MikeBarn a message :   The poster makes even more sense after seeing the video. Just as I was starting to be convinced this sucked.   2006-10-23 15:29:41
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   http://www.aolmusicindie.com/2006/10/17/video-premiere-the-hold-steady-chips-ahoy?ncid=AOLMUS00050000000039   2006-10-23 15:26:37
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   "Man, I hope there is a new poster update soon. This is thread is BORING."
It's not going to help any as we have another poster in that batch that is all designer-y and static and boring and the type is small. We designed it and printed it last night to piss off Richie.
  2006-10-23 15:17:37
dethinkSend dethink a message :   "Man, I hope there is a new poster update soon. This is thread is BORING."
Yeah, I can't wait til my flat colored, non-distressed, pinup/flame/skull/hotrod-less, event-focused submissions get up here so I can see how badly they get torn apart. >:)
  2006-10-23 15:10:50
SalcanzonieriSend Salcanzonieri a message :   You don't have to be a collector to buy stuff.
  2006-10-23 15:07:50
RobSend Rob a message :   "SO that is merch, which is also doing a job, attracting buyers. "
collectors are stupid.
  2006-10-23 15:04:48
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   old vaginaface goodtimes has always hated this kind of thing though... too "designery"   2006-10-23 15:03:51
SalcanzonieriSend Salcanzonieri a message :   Yeah, Dave, I hade posters done for shows after they happened.
SO that is merch, which is also doing a job, attracting buyers.
or just to commemorate an event, if it is not used as merch.
Either way, a poster made after a show still has to be appealing to me and our fans, or it has no need to exist.
  2006-10-23 15:03:34
perkinsSend perkins a message :   Great use of neg space. Fresh color choices & nice color balance. Creative integration of necessary typography. Solid composition utilizing an angled rectangular shape motif. Interesting combination of line art vs photography. Well-rendered texture. Unconventional registration in select areas.   2006-10-23 14:59:39
SalcanzonieriSend Salcanzonieri a message :   That's the difference between an artist and a hack: doing a job and doing it with style.
What does an architect do? A portrait painter? etc.
An art print you can do whatever you like, but a gig poster gives you some parameters to work in.
  2006-10-23 14:53:54
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   This poster's success has doubled since earlier today.
WELL DONE BOYS!
  2006-10-23 14:53:37
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   I see. Well. Tell us what you think about it. Er...vaginaface.   2006-10-23 14:53:32
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I never said it was awful. I said I did not understand why it was good.   2006-10-23 14:52:06
naduvalSend naduval a message :   Man, I hope there is a new poster update soon. This is thread is BORING.   2006-10-23 14:51:48
MikeBarnSend MikeBarn a message :   Are you sure you understand? All your posters are centered in the middle of the same size page.   2006-10-23 14:51:44
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Richie, did you ever tell us why you think this is so awful? I can't remember.   2006-10-23 14:51:30
SalcanzonieriSend Salcanzonieri a message :   IF someone has an aftermarket sales thing that is successful it is for two reasons:
1 - the artist has a style that is appealing out of context of the show event.
2 - the artist understands marketing and sales, and is good at business.
How to do #1 there and also do the job a gig poster is supposed to do IS what brains and talent are for. You find your way in that space.
  2006-10-23 14:50:49
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   Like I said, some people think chicken sucks.   2006-10-23 14:50:08
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I understand the page!   2006-10-23 14:49:51
poguemahoneSend poguemahone a message :   my collection of EF and Gaydybug posters were well underway long before i had any idea who any of you were.   2006-10-23 14:49:37
perkinsSend perkins a message :   Speaking for myself, I try to design posters to be art, not just advertisements for a show. Right or wrong, my poster's job is to: 1) Promote the show 2) Get me some exposure
If #2 was not a part of it, I'd be working for free & I doubt I'd be as enthusiastic about doing it.
  2006-10-23 14:49:33
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   sal havent you got posters done for gigs of yours that already happened?   2006-10-23 14:48:24
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   I'm still fascinated by the fact that only ONE point of view is the RIGHT one. I could have sworn that there could be more.   2006-10-23 14:48:11
standardSend standard a message :   richie is manipulating all of you.   2006-10-23 14:47:53
SalcanzonieriSend Salcanzonieri a message :   Well, you are selling an artifact, to: - fans of the band - people who feel like getting one - fans of the artist.
If you made it for the purpose of appealing to other artists, then it is full of shit, which is what Richie is saying.
No great "old days" poster out there was made with the after market in mind. They were done to make it exciting to people to come to the show.
Whether you make money selling artifacts has nothing to do with if this poster helped pull at the door, which was why anyone would have commissioned it in the first place. It's not supposed to be wall paper decoration.
  2006-10-23 14:46:14
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   We did a black and white flier that probably did the most of the promotion work but the club does indeed get a healthy stack of these posters. Since we do have a relationship with the band and know that we'll be able to sell them at the shows and afterward I guess in some ways it could be seen as a "merch" poster...but again, it was/is being used for promotion as well.   2006-10-23 14:46:10
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Richie. Several people answered your question. And you for some reason attacked us...even though we never even said it was "perfect" or whatever.   2006-10-23 14:43:50
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   "Sal, if you were right on your last point, none of us would be making a dime except for what we're commissioned by the promoters." Billy, I totally disagree with that. You can do both. Fairly easily.   2006-10-23 14:42:49
perkinsSend perkins a message :   That would be your last point from your previous post.   2006-10-23 14:42:13
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Like 150 comments ago I politely asked a question. I started with the name calling when I felt you'd earned it.   2006-10-23 14:41:45
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   is this a merch poster?   2006-10-23 14:41:39
perkinsSend perkins a message :   Sal, if you were right on your last point, none of us would be making a dime except for what we're commissioned by the promoters.   2006-10-23 14:41:15
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   I mean, I agree with what Sal is saying here...is that what Richie said? Did I miss something between us being called a douches and a vaginas?   2006-10-23 14:40:18
SalcanzonieriSend Salcanzonieri a message :   Long as it brought people in the door, then it works.   2006-10-23 14:39:53
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I have heard this band I am pretty sure the fans would love this poster and it would work really well as an ad for them.
My opinion.
  2006-10-23 14:38:00
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i have something to say.   2006-10-23 14:35:17
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   But wait. Richie didn't actually say anything.   2006-10-23 14:34:07
SalcanzonieriSend Salcanzonieri a message :   Ritchie's right, pretty much.
The job of a poster is to sell something. Whether you like it or not. Not to be designed for other designers to like. AND not to be designed so that it will sell later. It's an advertisement.
It is to attract you to come to the show.
No different than Toulose-le-Trec or Mucha or whoever had to do 105 years ago.
If this attracts the kind of people who would like this band, then it was sucessful as an adverisement for the show.
If it doesn't, regardless if the band likes it, the artist likes it, people at gigposters likes it, who cares. The club is being done a disservice is it does not attract people to see this band (so that they will buy liquor or beer). Other way there is no earthly purpose for a gig poster to exist.
Gig posters aren't "ART", they are art.
  2006-10-23 14:33:12
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   why is everyone so angry! claim down. noone was fowled.   2006-10-23 14:32:05
MURPHYSend MURPHY a message :   Wow...'Rob' was actually funny for once   2006-10-23 14:29:07
PunchgutSend Punchgut a message :   this all means nothing to me until i hear Uncle Charlies opinion...so shad up   2006-10-23 14:23:45
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   I'm "feeling my oats". And as I have nothing valid to add to the argument, I shall take my exit.   2006-10-23 14:21:58
andydieselSend andydiesel a message :   the second time i got laid i used a condom made out of bacon.   2006-10-23 14:21:55
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   BACON   2006-10-23 14:20:57
MikeBarnSend MikeBarn a message :   I was going to say the same thing El Negro!   2006-10-23 14:20:17
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   Us black dudes look the same.   2006-10-23 14:19:29
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   well this certainly took an unexpected turn.   2006-10-23 14:18:38
Mike GilbertSend Mike Gilbert a message :   I think the link is broken it says something about the packers and #1   2006-10-23 14:18:29
RobSend Rob a message :   OMG...is ravi logged on as ENM??   2006-10-23 14:18:12
altieriSend altieri a message :   Vaginas are way cool.   2006-10-23 14:17:48
MikeBarnSend MikeBarn a message :   I'd love some good designer vaj!   2006-10-23 14:17:44
RobSend Rob a message :   http://www.sundancedesigns.net/191.jpg   2006-10-23 14:16:48
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   A vagina is a fine organ.   2006-10-23 14:16:25
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   No, no. Richie you are confused. We got a reference to a vagina on our Interpol poster. Are you angry because we don't put enough vaginas on our posters? Because we can definitely do that. I've got tons of ideas on how to make nice vagina posters.   2006-10-23 14:16:03
steve wSend steve w a message :   algebra pisses me off   2006-10-23 14:15:58
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   my high-school algebra teacher had sausage fingers like that.   2006-10-23 14:14:58
steve wSend steve w a message :   that thumb pisses me off   2006-10-23 14:14:21
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   www.philaarts.com   2006-10-23 14:13:43
Mike GilbertSend Mike Gilbert a message :   did someone say vagina?   2006-10-23 14:13:39
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   I mean... you guys *could* work on the registration a bit. mmmmk?   2006-10-23 14:13:28
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   You sound kinda angry. Is everything ok?   2006-10-23 14:11:56
standardSend standard a message :   I am about to FLIP OUT.   2006-10-23 14:11:25
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I never got angry. I never get angry.
I do think you're a vagina, though.
  2006-10-23 14:10:45
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Oh, Richie. You are silly.   2006-10-23 14:10:44
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   Crap...
Getting angry about posters IS hip, young and retarded. Thanks everybody!
  2006-10-23 14:10:31
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   Yes we agree. Getting angry about rock posters hip, young, and retarded.   2006-10-23 14:09:39
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Great. We agree.   2006-10-23 14:06:17
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Mmmmhmmm. Sounds good, Richie.   2006-10-23 14:05:08
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   What the hell did I do?!   2006-10-23 14:04:38
andydieselSend andydiesel a message :   i'm totally not a virgin. i've had sex twice.   2006-10-23 14:04:18
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   You know I'm right, douche.
Urban Outfitters. Hip! Young! Now! Retarded!
  2006-10-23 14:03:03
MURPHYSend MURPHY a message :   Oh, Fish Remind me to sock you...   2006-10-23 14:02:51
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Oh, Richie. Keep em' coming!   2006-10-23 14:01:07
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Richie won't let me talk to him, so I'll ask Micheal...
Michael, what's Richie's point?
  2006-10-23 14:00:42
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Oh Michael. I like how easily Hold Steady is replaced with Urban Outfitters without missing a beat.
Nice work. I see the genius now.
  2006-10-23 13:58:39
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i could have sworn ive seen those people before.   2006-10-23 13:57:21
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Oh, Richie.   2006-10-23 13:53:49
strawberrylunaSend strawberryluna a message :   personally, i think those are decisions that make this poster visually appealing.   2006-10-23 13:53:46
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Sorry sir.   2006-10-23 13:53:26
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Shut it Schmickle. If I wanted to talk to you I'd go make fun of one of your 'posters'.   2006-10-23 13:52:51
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   why do you care?   2006-10-23 13:52:08
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Are these the decisions that make this genius?   2006-10-23 13:51:33
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   What's the fucking pount of the distressed halftone on the top part? Why is it stupidly out of register? Why is the info so fucking small? If you repeat it does it become bigger?   2006-10-23 13:50:49
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   You are funny Mister Goodtimes.   2006-10-23 13:48:01
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   You guys are a plague. Tan, bue, orange, finger, old photo, chaotic layout that really isn't...
You're a plague. I didn't ask if you're client liked it. I asked if this is good...a while back...nicely.
What makes this perfect? What am I missing?
A bunch of other fucktards decided to make it about me.
  2006-10-23 13:45:55
Bob CaruthersSend Bob Caruthers a message :   It looks like a prom picture of a couple who are going steady which is term from years ago to mean a boy and a girl who date only each other for a long time which could be the basis for the concept of the poster.   2006-10-23 13:35:43
bathroom monkeySend bathroom monkey a message :   200   2006-10-23 12:40:22
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   that's a bulbous fingah..   2006-10-23 12:10:52
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   perkins 2006-10-23 11:24:31
I like AA's stuff. Their posters are great examples of what I learned in design class about composition. I need to be practicing more of it myself. NAIL on the head, billy.
  2006-10-23 11:49:35
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   I wish you guys would just learn that shity design work, bad typography and ugly color schemes sell better and are the sure fire way to make a zillion dollars at Wal-Mart.   2006-10-23 11:32:24
SashSend Sash a message :   hmm. this poster is pretty cool. there's something a little off about it but that's a good thing, gives it a certain unsettled energy. when a composition is perfectly stable or symmetrical, it's kind of dead. the imagery to me suggests a pun on "hold steady", like the finger is kind of pressing a shutter and the photo suggests holding still, posing, for a snapshot.   2006-10-23 11:30:27
perkinsSend perkins a message :   I like AA's stuff. Their posters are great examples of what I learned in design class about composition. I need to be practicing more of it myself.   2006-10-23 11:24:31
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   I am not a hippie.   2006-10-23 11:04:36
Joanna WechtSend Joanna Wecht a message :   just make something bad for a day.....AMAZING AS ALWAYS   2006-10-23 10:39:49
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   the hand should have been the girl's nose, and her nose should have been the guy's bow-tie, and the bow-tie should have been fire.   2006-10-23 10:15:36
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   The community?!?! You hippies can go make your own posters.   2006-10-23 10:14:26
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   OH, sure. Keep your clients happy, but WHAT ABOUT US?! THE COMMUNITY!!
sorry for yelling.
  2006-10-23 09:58:03
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   But...no! We are happy with the poster. And so is the band! And don't draw on our skull prints!   2006-10-23 09:55:38
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   once you guys admit you screwed up, I think everything should be fine.
  2006-10-23 09:53:10
John ASend John A a message :   FYI - If you are ever playing poker with a braile deck, don't let the blind guy deal.   2006-10-23 09:51:49
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   how DARE you.   2006-10-23 09:49:12
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   Hi Dan!   2006-10-23 09:48:56
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Or maybe you could just put a picture of yourself on the poster Denny. That makes it more gigposterish too.   2006-10-23 09:48:02
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   GP argument No. 1: -"I love chicken." -"You're an idiot! Chicken sucks. Beef rules." -"I don't like red meat" -"You are a dumbass. How can you like chicken?! I HATE CHICKEN!" (end argument)   2006-10-23 09:47:44
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Glow in the dark braile.   2006-10-23 09:46:57
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   Hi Michael!   2006-10-23 09:45:45
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Well, this has the information repeated 8 times...that's counts for something...right?   2006-10-23 09:45:32
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   print the brail with overprint varnish...   2006-10-23 09:44:57
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Truthfully, I just printed a poster this weekend with larger venue, date, time info than I've ever done before. Just because I thought it would be *fun* to make a poster that looked more like a "gig-poster".
To balance that one out, I'm going to do the next one with in braile.
  2006-10-23 09:43:08
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   the hand should have been a nose.   2006-10-23 09:42:56
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Stay on topic, Denny.   2006-10-23 09:41:33
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   bump.   2006-10-23 09:41:05
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Is this "discussion" set on a freakin timer or what? I mean... yeah, I guess 6 months or so have passed since the LAST TIME THIS TOPIC WAS BEAT TO DEATH.   2006-10-23 09:40:26
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   And apparently the BEST poster on gigposters.com   2006-10-23 09:39:28
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   3D : http://www.gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=36585
Legendary.
  2006-10-23 09:39:04
webuyyourkidsSend webuyyourkids a message :   no. more. chicken.   2006-10-23 09:37:38
RobSend Rob a message :   you mean the turkey.   2006-10-23 09:37:01
3d glassesSend 3d glasses a message :   'Do I need to remeind you of the chicken?' yes please.   2006-10-23 09:36:18
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   I would like this poster a lot more if the pic of the homecoming couple were as blurry and drugged out as the song.
You guys BLEW IT!!
  2006-10-23 09:34:55
webuyyourkidsSend webuyyourkids a message :   this poster is a phenomenon   2006-10-23 09:34:50
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I think it's funny that number of comments and attention a poster gets on gigposters.com is often used to measure the apparent "success" or "failure" of a poster.
Do I need to remeind you of the chicken?
Idiots.
  2006-10-23 09:32:12
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Yeah. The hand is from a newspaper clipart service book from the sixties. So, you know, it's probably been used a number of times for a number of years on a number of things.   2006-10-23 09:31:07
goad74Send goad74 a message :   "That's my hand. Period."   2006-10-23 09:26:42
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   that hand looks familiar.   2006-10-23 09:25:24
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Stop instigating Michael.   2006-10-23 09:06:43
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Oh hi. Oh my. Yeah, I mean I guess our work isn't for everyone. How can it be? The thing is this is the third poster the band has commissioned us to do. So, I guess they like what we do. Honestly, I'm sure this poster COULD be better. They're a band I like so much that I just don't think I can do them justice.
Designing for other designers? No.
ANYWAY. Thanks for all the comments. These shows are this week and they're gonna be great.
  2006-10-23 08:59:58
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   has anyone commented that the pantone for gold should have been a 141c not a 142c?   2006-10-23 06:58:13
3d glassesSend 3d glasses a message :   this is cool.. i wonder if richie, aa or someone at walmart could lend me a pound for a cup of tea?   2006-10-23 06:43:54
DRGSend DRG a message :   This is my favourite poster by Richie Goodtimes.   2006-10-23 05:45:04
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   The best part of all of this is that I can actually hear Richies voice as I read his comments. So I have a different perspective than most knowing Richie like I do.   2006-10-23 00:39:32
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   snarky goodtimes
"(adjective) describes a witty mannerism, personality, or behavior that is a combination of sarcasm and cynicism. Usually accepted as a complimentary term. Snark is sometimes mistaken for a snotty or arrogant attitude.
His snarky remarks had half the room on the floor laughing and the other half ready to walk out."
-Urban Dictionary
I had to look up snarky to make sure it was a real word. We only use about 35 words in NE.
  2006-10-23 00:36:40
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Hey Dan!   2006-10-23 00:12:31
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   You're Kazakh.   2006-10-23 00:02:55
DeliciousSend Delicious a message :   Hey Mike!!   2006-10-22 23:55:53
Dan ApparatusSend Dan Apparatus a message :   Richie, you have once again successfully stirred the pot to boil up a bumper crop of replies for you to formulate snarky replies to. Thank you, today you are the Kazakh Government to our Borat movie.
If you don't like our posters, that's great. We're not making them to please you. We make them for the band, the fan and ourselves (not necessarily in that order.) If people like them as much as we do that is a great feeling. And if people don't like them, that's too bad because we can only make what we think is good. If we could make a poster that made everyone happy what a boring damn poster studio that would be.
Keep on hatin'!
  2006-10-22 23:32:25
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Hi billy!!!   2006-10-22 23:21:40
DeliciousSend Delicious a message :   The issue as I see it is that designers in any sort of creative field like AA that don't talk down to their viewers but rather respect them and their ability to interpret the communication will inherently create works that average joe-schmos like Goodtimes just won't get. And designers like Goodtimes believe that unless you spell everything out for a viewer, aka having no trust or respect for the viewer to understand a slightly compicated message, will undoubtably judge pieces like this as missing their audience.   2006-10-22 22:23:37
connor13Send connor13 a message :   sofa
king
  2006-10-22 21:10:54
dustin wallaceSend dustin wallace a message :   It's just a fucking piece of paper. The real world doesn't care.   2006-10-22 20:47:55
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   I like Shatner too, Casey.   2006-10-22 20:14:25
Casey BurnsSend Casey Burns a message :   i think AA's designs are always really solid, and probably do appeal to fans of the hold steady. to me the hold steady sound like a really solid band with william shatner fronting them. so it's about half my cup of tea. while i think AA are really good designers, their work tends to just leave me cold. but then there's someone like ron liberti, who is the essense of a designer, and his stuff feels designer and totally rock and roll at the same time. and never leaves me cold. sometimes the overly (and clearly) calculated balance of some designer peices just kills the fun of a design for me. i'm not sure where i'm going with this. how about this: ron liberti rules.   2006-10-22 19:34:14
getoutoftheleftlaneSend getoutoftheleftlane a message :   I thought fatherhood would make Richie softer.   2006-10-22 15:11:35
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   someone needs to teach me how to make posters.
I spent my potential SCAD tuition yesterday.
  2006-10-22 15:09:11
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   good thing, "I don't make posters to sell them."   2006-10-22 15:08:11
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   If I wanted it I wouldn't have had to have bought it.   2006-10-22 15:06:37
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   I assume you didnt buy one   2006-10-22 15:05:25
bathroom monkeySend bathroom monkey a message :   can i pre-order the HOS Melvins poster?   2006-10-22 15:03:41
CCCPSend CCCP a message :   Being called a moron by Richie is strangely satisfying.   2006-10-22 15:03:22
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   You call that a poster?   2006-10-22 15:02:29
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   Awesome.
Im glad i could piss you off that much with a one color poster.
  2006-10-22 15:02:05
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Understands the page was funnier.   2006-10-22 15:01:32
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   but thats not the answer he wants to hear. Try again.   2006-10-22 15:00:59
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I'll wait. I'm extr a stoked to have had the opportunity to be in it's presence to get the full scale of how much it sucked more so than a jpeg could ever give me.   2006-10-22 15:00:51
bathroom monkeySend bathroom monkey a message :   its good because the audience for the Hold Steady likes designer art. hell a bunch of them probably consider themselves designers.
duh
  2006-10-22 15:00:21
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   "I asked why this is good. No one's answered that. I've heard why I'm not. I didn't ask that."
Many people answered it, you just didnt like the answers, and devalidated them by saying they are designers so it doesnt count....
You can say what ever you want about our Melvins poster when it comes up, I assume you've already seen it, at the show i'm guessing. I'm fully expecting folks not to like it. We've done a melvins posters before, as well as a High on Fire poster which you can comment on right now. No need to wait.
  2006-10-22 14:58:56
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   x 2   2006-10-22 14:58:35
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   a few people tried to answer why they think it is good.. but you said yourself you don't care what they think.. or simply ignored their reasons.. so why ask?   2006-10-22 14:58:14
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Now someone who's not a moron answer.   2006-10-22 14:58:11
CCCPSend CCCP a message :   It's a question that you don't want to hear the answer to. Whatever anyone says you'll just dismiss as designery bullshit.
Why is this poster good? Because I like it.
Why is this poster bad? Because Richie doesn't like it.
  2006-10-22 14:57:27
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I was being facetious. I didn't prove any point and it invalidated everything to do with money.   2006-10-22 14:54:32
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I can't wait for your travesty of a Melvins poster to get up on this site, Dusty.
I'm gonna have a field day.
  2006-10-22 14:53:39
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   You didnt start it, but you folded it into your argument. As i said before its funny that you questions AA's motives for making posters (and allude to it being soley for $$$) and then validate your position by saying you're right because you (presume that you) make more money. What sense that makes i cant tell   2006-10-22 14:53:07
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I asked why this is good. No one's answered that. I've heard why I'm not. I didn't ask that.   2006-10-22 14:52:17
bathroom monkeySend bathroom monkey a message :   i'd buy this poster, partly because it annoys Richie so much   2006-10-22 14:49:53
CCCPSend CCCP a message :   I'm pretty sure AA is just in it for the chicks. That's what they told me, anyways.   2006-10-22 14:49:49
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   What's funny Dusty? I didn't START the who sells more/makes more money argument. Some other douche did.
I just finished it.
  2006-10-22 14:49:33
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   I think AA is more focused on getting people sober than good design, guys.   2006-10-22 14:36:28
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   I still want to see his tax return.   2006-10-22 14:34:43
Dusty!Send Dusty! a message :   "I make more money hourly in this industry than 90% of you, for more than my technical skills. I also work as a 'designer'. If it was about money I'd always be right. I make more than the AA guys. I guarantee it. Do you want to see my tax return?"
Its funny, you ride AA on this idea that they're only making posters to make money/sell to other designers (which i think is totally off base, see MaxFlo's comments)... And then you turn the argument into the idea that your points are valid only because you make money (and from what you've said in the past, make money for the sake of making money, and not to do good design work...).
  2006-10-22 14:31:40
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   There's a negative image of a chicken.
zomzom
  2006-10-22 14:06:44
guyburSend guybur a message :   I am in love with Richard Goodtimes.   2006-10-22 13:35:55
bdixSend bdix a message :   I dig it   2006-10-22 13:26:17
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   From what I hear your opinion doesn't count until you make over $250k per year doing non-designer design work.   2006-10-22 13:22:42
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   bump   2006-10-22 12:52:28
frostbiteSend frostbite a message :   you'll see they'll dedicate this poster to richie when it goes up for sale on the aa website   2006-10-22 06:21:31
bathroom monkeySend bathroom monkey a message :   i bet AA sells more posters when the comments go over 100.
111
  2006-10-22 05:26:41
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   Nah, Richie's real. Clay agitates folks on his own with his anti-Mac stance. :D   2006-10-22 05:00:11
DRGSend DRG a message :   Is this little debate still going on? Don't you people know that "Richie Goodtimes" isn't even REAL? He's just a piece of software made by Clay to see how far people can be wound up.   2006-10-22 04:45:01
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   I'm bettin' that Dan, Mike and the new dude are digging the attention this is getting. I know I would.   2006-10-22 04:17:51
StephSend Steph a message :   I am not a graphic artist but I have been buying posters for the past 15 years.
When I see a poster for the first time I know immediatly if I love it or not... Can be a visual choc, can be an emotion, can be the colours, an idea... many things...
I don't know if I recognize good design or not but when I like it... I don't need to think too much about it.
  2006-10-22 02:45:30
braksandwichSend braksandwich a message :   Most people don't recognize good design as good design. They respond to it by purchasing a product or recognizing a brand, but most people have really shitty ideas about design.   2006-10-22 02:29:37
slaterSend slater a message :   I do think on some level that everyone recognizes good design. They may not be able to tell you why it's good design but they'll know it looks right.   2006-10-22 01:54:22
loosetranslationSend loosetranslation a message :   there is entirely too much bow tie in this poster   2006-10-22 01:52:29
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   Mine doesn't, unless someone thinks it does.   2006-10-22 01:51:16
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   It's cute that some of you think your opinion matters.   2006-10-22 01:45:57
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   AA must be doing somethig right, they always get 100+ comments on all their posters. Overall, I would have to say that is not their best work. But even their average stuff is pretty damn good.   2006-10-22 01:40:23
braksandwichSend braksandwich a message :   It's all opinion. One of my posters that got tons of criticism from other artists for "missing the mark" or "lacking the vibe of the band" turned out to be my best selling item at the last flatstock. So while the artists thought I failed to speak to the audience properly, the audience disagreed pretty wholehartedly with their pocketbooks. I've also had pieces where half the band loved it and the other half didn't. You can't please everyone, and artistic tastes are very personal. I hope AA doesn't care which poster artists like their stuff and which don't. I know there are tons of people here who aren't into my stuff and I don't care, because I like what I do and the music fans do too.   2006-10-22 01:26:59
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   "3.I have never heard the band. Are they nerdcore?" Springsteenish bar rock with Kerouac leanings. It's actually better than I've described it. http://www.vagrant.com/holdsteady_listeningparty/   2006-10-22 01:16:31
Barry ObamaSend Barry Obama a message :   1. I like AA 2. This poster is OK. 3.I have never heard the band. Are they nerdcore? 4.I refuse to squander my precious urine. I re-aborb the water and excrete small crystals.   2006-10-22 01:01:41
PunchgutSend Punchgut a message :   if you hate this music AND you hate this design---------------------doesn't that mean AA nailed it?   2006-10-22 00:26:02
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   "All I know is that I want to collab with AA on something." That'll be epic, f'real.   2006-10-21 23:39:25
JustinHeltonSend JustinHelton a message :   jesus christ guys just ive props where its deserved, if you dont like it dont...I however do like it, as well as everything these guys do, so whatever....   2006-10-21 23:39:17
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   "The legend is that when ENM wants to pee 15 feet he only has to actually pee 5 feet." Shhh...keep that on the low. I'm "modest". "I figured that I'd pull out the canadian vocabulary on that one.." On a related note, I saw my first Sacagawea coin this year. The American Loonie!
Gettin' back to the poster, I'm glad this debate came up. The name-calling and cursing isn't tolerated at Be A Design Group's site, so it's cool to come here and enjoy some health GP discourse.
  2006-10-21 23:38:32
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I think the fact that the Melvins used AA's work for a 7" cover says something about thier ability to make "rock posters". That HAS to count for something.
All I know is that I want to collab with AA on something. I think something very cool could come of it for sure. I'd LOVE to see what they would do with one of illos or hand drawn text.
  2006-10-21 23:31:07
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   i can't tell you why a "non designer" would like an AA poster, because i'm a designer.
but, i can assure you that AA has a strong visual connection with the music, fans and "scene" for lack of a better word, that they deal with.
their fans respond to their posters the same way a dirthead kid in the early 90s would have responded to Dio's "Holy Diver" album cover. they connect with it, they love it, it represents them and their peers.
while i don't really connect with all of the music AA does work for, i like almost everything they do.
  2006-10-21 23:25:07
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   The legend is that when ENM wants to pee 15 feet he only has to actually pee 5 feet.   2006-10-21 23:18:22
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   So Richie, what you're saying is that the intended audience of this piece, fans of The Hold Steady, will not understand it. This is, as the intellectuals say, an "inappropriate solution". AA designed this piece to impress the judges at Graphis more than rock and rollers. Rock and rollers would have preferred something more traditional. Like maybe a nekkid lady draped over a hot rod or some other traditional theme.   2006-10-21 23:13:22
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I have never been in a pissing contest..... Oh wait....   2006-10-21 23:12:54
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   "I've got a feelin' (an inkling, if you will...) that I can piss 15 feet. I'll have to come down to an Austin FS and compete." Road trip Allan? haha.. and yah I figured that I'd pull out the canadian vocabulary on that one..   2006-10-21 23:09:35
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   I can try to piss fifteen feet but I am worried a stone might shoot out. Ouch!   2006-10-21 23:08:52
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   Thanks, Mike. I was due to be right about something. I'm gonna treat myself to a donut. Or two. :) Evan...only a handfull of folks here are gonna know what a toonie is. Say a "commemorative coin" or something.
:D
  2006-10-21 23:07:33
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   I've got a feelin' (an inkling, if you will...) that I can piss 15 feet. I'll have to come down to an Austin FS and compete. From the photos I've seen of Austin Flatstocks, the atmosphere seems just right for such a contest. :)   2006-10-21 23:05:00
CCCPSend CCCP a message :   I honestly think that after 4 years here, that's my first 'fuck you' from Richie. OK. Maybe the 2nd.
You're like the Essa Tikkanen of gig posters, Richie. You're talented, but your real role in the whole picture of things is to just stir shit up. Also, 85% of what you say just doesn't make any sense. That said, you will surely make it into the hall of fame some day.
  2006-10-21 23:02:51
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   yah i'm all over the place but i could hit a tooney at 14'   2006-10-21 23:02:28
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   yup..   2006-10-21 23:01:48
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I can piss 15 feet but I'm only accurate to 12. I can piss on a dime at 12 feet.   2006-10-21 23:01:39
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Alan.... EXCATLY!   2006-10-21 23:01:13
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I can not piss 15 feet. I bet Frank can. He is better than me at everything. Damn Kozik.   2006-10-21 23:00:46
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   I like hearing what my peers think, but I can't let what they MIGHT say affect the end result of the design.** 'Cuz that's like, dumb. It ain't for them.
**Their collective voices are in the back of my head, but I do my best to ignore 'em. I try anyway.
  2006-10-21 23:00:26
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Then we must be right. Money equals right.   2006-10-21 22:58:29
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   yah, but can you piss 15 feet?   2006-10-21 22:58:21
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I'll match tax returns with anybody on this site other than Kozik. I think he has me beat.   2006-10-21 22:49:44
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   Yes, please post your tax return.
  2006-10-21 22:48:21
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Maybe, but I know you care what I and some others think of your stuff. Surely you do. And we are YOUR peers. So, like, you see what I mean?
I know what you are getting at though.
  2006-10-21 22:46:27
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I'd rather be hated by these fucks.   2006-10-21 22:31:29
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Don't argue with me Fisher.   2006-10-21 22:30:51
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I like a lot of the AA stuff. Not this one so much. The hand and the photo don't seem to belong on the same poster for some reason.
And to argue just a little with you Richie... every one of us designs these things with the other designers here in mind at least a little. I mean, being accepted and respected by ones peers has some merit.
Now if all you are doing is designing for other designers... that is lame. Not presuming AA are doing that at all, just saying.
  2006-10-21 22:29:42
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I don't make posters to sell them.
More people shop at Walmart than buy AA posters. Walmart makes more money than AA so they must be better.
I ask valid questions that I think a great deal of you should consider for yourselves even if you don't answer me. I don't really care what your answer is. I think it's important that you think about it though. I'm doing you a service that your design school teachers forgot to bring up. I went. I know. I've talked to other people about it and when I mention it they recall the same experience.
Designers have to stop designing for other designers. You've been taught to and yo need to unlearn it. I'm fucking right and you know it. The only reason you wanna disagree with me is because it's me.
I make more money hourly in this industry than 90% of you, for more than my technical skills. I also work as a 'designer'. If it was about money I'd always be right. I make more than the AA guys. I guarantee it. Do you want to see my tax return?
On that note. Fuck you CCCP.
  2006-10-21 22:23:58
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   i'll be buying one..   2006-10-21 22:20:31
bob hSend bob h a message :   These folks are highly respected by my students And rightly so   2006-10-21 21:52:34
CCCPSend CCCP a message :   "My question as to WHO likes the designery stuff is a very important one.
WHO"
I would bet my right nut that AA sells more of their posters than you do of yours.
  2006-10-21 21:49:45
bathroom monkeySend bathroom monkey a message :   hey i like the hand, i even said so ealier   2006-10-21 20:04:14
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   Admit it Richie, you just hate that big hand like everyone else.   2006-10-21 20:02:12
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   " I'm that simple. I need ROCK CONCERT spelled out on everything. Otherwise I'd just be baffled. I like t-shirts to say T-SHIRT otherwise I don't know what I'm wearing." i actually think if richie did a poster for this type of band he could pretty easily..   2006-10-21 19:02:13
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   I know type wasn't the main product. I said selling "objects" in a store is harder than selling type online. They tried to leverage their sucess with type into chairs, pillows, etc. Which might have worked, had they not tried to operate the retail store themselves. The world is already full of neo-modern furniture and crap stores that could have sold stuff for them. But in the end, their objects really aren't that cool either.   2006-10-21 17:53:09
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   Richie, you have a point, they are very "designy", but I think there are people who didn't go to design school who like that kind of stuff. AA can't be selling all their posters other designers. But you're right, they are by no means low-brow.   2006-10-21 17:49:18
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Only if they get close to it.   2006-10-21 17:48:35
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   if someone can read, they can understand this poster..   2006-10-21 17:48:05
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Type wasn't the store's main product.
Why did it fail? I know. It's pretty simple.
  2006-10-21 17:46:46
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   house industries store failed because selling objects in a store is way harder than selling type online. They overstepped in a big way.   2006-10-21 17:44:57
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   they are terrible dancers.   2006-10-21 17:43:52
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I don't think they suck as graphic designers. I do think they suck at communicating to people who are not graphic designers.   2006-10-21 17:43:03
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   Okay Richie, then tell me why they suck. In either intellectual or non intellectual terms.   2006-10-21 17:41:55
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Intellectualize everything. That way you can convince yourself you're doing something good.   2006-10-21 17:30:37
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   danstiles gave a good explanation..   2006-10-21 17:24:32
MikeBarnSend MikeBarn a message :   Richie, there is nothing that I can say that hasn't been said around gigposters before. It's just a difference in taste and aesthetic. I really dig your High on Fire poster for different reasons in which I like AA's work. I think there can be different solutions to one answer.   2006-10-21 17:23:27
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I understand that this page is a rectangle.
Now give me an answer that doesn't sound like you farted it out.
  2006-10-21 17:17:54
MikeBarnSend MikeBarn a message :   danstiles 2006-10-21 17:09:35 "often asymmetrical layouts, good typography, and visual balance to often create really cool posters. Maybe it takes design school to recognize these things, maybe not. They are generally lacking in skulls, flames, stretched and curved computer type, centered layouts, lack of negative space, and naked ladies, which seem to be the hallmark of much poster design." Dan, in not so many words that's what I was saying about understanding the page. They understand how to make something not awkward. To each his own.   2006-10-21 17:17:03
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   House Industries attempted to open a retail store a couple years ago.
Why did it fail?
  2006-10-21 17:15:46
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   My question as to WHO likes the designery stuff is a very important one.
WHO
  2006-10-21 17:14:15
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   and I like the hand, otherwise this poster would have no focal point.   2006-10-21 17:11:17
danstilesSend danstiles a message :   AA takes old stuff and reconfigures it into new stuff, like Chantry. They combine wit, meaning, often asymmetrical layouts, good typography, and visual balance to often create really cool posters. Maybe it takes design school to recognize these things, maybe not. They are generally lacking in skulls, flames, stretched and curved computer type, centered layouts, lack of negative space, and naked ladies, which seem to be the hallmark of much poster design.
Some people dig the designy approach, others like the skulls and centering. Its a matter of taste I suppose.
  2006-10-21 17:09:35
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   rock posters?   2006-10-21 17:04:40
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I didn't say you've never made posters.   2006-10-21 16:59:46
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   nope, i am not in the position to offer lessons.. although i have made posters..   2006-10-21 16:51:06
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Am I getting a lesson on rock posters from someone who has never made one?   2006-10-21 16:16:00
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   no no.. rock posters are that simple..   2006-10-21 16:15:02
MrBlonde7Send MrBlonde7 a message :   i like posters   2006-10-21 15:58:36
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I'm that simple. I need ROCK CONCERT spelled out on everything. Otherwise I'd just be baffled. I like t-shirts to say T-SHIRT otherwise I don't know what I'm wearing.   2006-10-21 15:42:04
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   i agree allan, this could probably be just as strong without the hand.. but i dig this either way.. and yes, it has the perfect feel for their new album.
it is however missing "ROCK CONCERT!!!" at the top or bottom, but you know... live and learn..
  2006-10-21 14:49:49
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   movie quote   2006-10-21 14:47:18
lil_tuffySend lil_tuffy a message :   I thought it was in Communication Arts.   2006-10-21 14:41:05
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i dont get it, was that a joke that appeared in print mag?   2006-10-21 14:36:44
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   "Can you blow me where the pampers is?"   2006-10-21 14:25:23
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   pardon me, which way is it to the university hub?   2006-10-21 14:22:33
El Negro Magnifico!Send El Negro Magnifico! a message :   Would someone who's not into graphic design dig this? Maybe not. It might be too unorthodox for the average person; someone that likes their messages straight. Personally, I like it. The type arrangement is cool. I don't think the hand was necessary, but it's there. The prom picture fits in with the vibe of the album, in my opinion. Boys n' girls fallin' in love...eventually fallin' out of love. Admittedly, the "understanding the page" thing sounds kinda hokey (sorry, Mike). If you're talking about how they arrange elements in a design, I think I understand.   2006-10-21 14:19:49
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   I know you are a good shit. But I like Richie too. I'm just saying...   2006-10-21 14:17:18
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   do you like me?   2006-10-21 14:14:22
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   Sorry, I was talking to Richie.   2006-10-21 14:07:25
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   no, they dont. or were you talking to richie.   2006-10-21 14:00:39
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   I know you can be a a-hole for no good reason but people still like you.   2006-10-21 13:59:19
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   allenbone is totally doing research before he answers your questions.
i understand the keyboard.
  2006-10-21 13:11:32
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   You think? I don't care what you think.
Tell me what you know.
  2006-10-21 13:08:33
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   i like almost everything aa does..
i enjoy just as much when people other than aa talk about their posters.
  2006-10-21 13:05:48
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   I think AA's work appeals to many people who are not students of graphic design, otherwise they wouldn't be as succesfull as they have been.   2006-10-21 13:02:56
bathroom monkeySend bathroom monkey a message :   i like the colors and the hand is pretty cool   2006-10-21 12:32:01
erickSend erick a message :   this is perfect. man, I need this.
  2006-10-21 12:18:56
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Understanding the page? You're shitting me. AA are great because they understand the page?
What does that mean in laymans terms?
Is there even a laymans term for that or am I correct in my assumption that you're just making shit up.
If you were not a student of graphic design would this still appeal to you?
  2006-10-21 12:16:55
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   The AA text medallions are very recognizable.
Not a fan of this poster.
I still have your skull show prints. Do you guys need them back, or can I draw on them?
  2006-10-21 08:59:09
stinkbaitSend stinkbait a message :   the hold steady are one of the best live bands out there today. everyone shoudl go see them. AA knows what's up.   2006-10-21 08:41:31
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   pardon me, which way is it to the university hub?   2006-10-21 07:58:40
MikeBarnSend MikeBarn a message :   I agree. Understanding the page is one of the most over-looked aspects of poster design.
Great attention to detail and great poster.
  2006-10-21 01:36:28
slaterSend slater a message :   Yes, great balance. Cool poster.   2006-10-20 22:54:34
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   I like AA because they understand how to balance space, make me look at ordinary images in new ways, have a good hold on color theroy and have solid type skills. Their design is classic and timeless much like Beall. I like many other designers on this sight for exact same reason.
Everybody makes choices.
  2006-10-20 22:20:30
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   personally, i really enjoy their type arrangements.. they seem to usually give a glimpse of order in an otherwise SEEMINGLY chaotic layout.. but, mostly i think their posters are fun to look at..   2006-10-20 18:52:45
B-DROIDSend B-DROID a message :   Your blue and yellow are out of register, if you guys didn't catch that.   2006-10-20 18:13:04
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   I've been trying for years to understand what you people are seeing in AA's work and I don't get it.
Once in a while I catch a glimpse of something that I think is smart or cool, but more than usual...not.
What is the fucking apppeal? For serious.
  2006-10-20 18:12:40
allenboeSend allenboe a message :   Why not?   2006-10-20 18:09:07
RichieGoodtimesSend RichieGoodtimes a message :   Why?   2006-10-20 18:06:33
evanmarnochSend evanmarnoch a message :   damn this is good.. soooo good. i must buy this..   2006-10-20 18:04:59
thenewyearSend thenewyear a message :   classic.   2006-10-20 17:43:45
naduvalSend naduval a message :   killer.   2006-10-20 16:50:40
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   Really. this is silly fresh good!   2006-10-20 16:29:23
john_fuzSend john_fuz a message :   cool stuff as usual. love all the angles.   2006-10-20 16:27:12
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   nice work guys.   2006-10-20 15:56:42
Zach HobbsSend Zach Hobbs a message :   boys and girls in america. I'll own this.   2006-10-20 15:09:39
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