For the record, my last comment was based entirely on internet hen-house gossip. I have no actual proof that Jermaine is any one of those people beyond Broadway, nor do I care to put effort into any sort of "investigation".
I'm sorry for caring enough about any of this GP nonsense to post at all and for any perception of the man damaged as a direct result of my flippant remarks.
You can all make fun of me now.
At first, I was watching all this commenting and thinking that most of it was politically motivated. I mean, the style issue is a bit subjective: I can’t say that Zach’s “groovy” monster (an excellent poster that I like more than this one) is more on target for HoF than this one. So I was thinking that if you hate Bush, you probably like this poster, and vice versa. Then it occurred to me: it is criticizing warrior W, and thus, unlike the majority of the other posters, you just cannot see the main content as kick-ass cool. I root for the BLSQ pig knight, bow at the PrintMafia alter, and am in awe of the Firehouse A-bomb. But this is just uncool destruction. Ah, but I still like it.
well...this poster aint the worst thing thats ever been done...and it sure aint the best. its just a poster. no need for all the venom. trust though that i certainly wasn't making a 'political' statement...Cause I played dress up with those 2 jokers, dont try and read into what I was 'trying' to say...or whatever.
Its a rock and roll poster. Prolly wont be the last one I do...and it probably wont be the last one called 'inappropriate' and 'ego driven'.
I didnt want to comment on this. EMEK first let me know it got all the commentsa couple days ago...he told me while I was out on the road. Then John A told me and I saw it at his house. I didnt plan to comment. I used to always tell Brian Ewing back in the day that I didnt think an artist should ever defend his art publically right away...but just 'let it be' for a while. I kinda followed it though...and talked to a few folks about it. Tara thought it was kinda funny. Then I saw something this afternoon that I made me have to speak.
It dealt with something CERDO said, saying Im babylover or carl gruper or whoever...like I have to create 'people' to defend my artwork. You know, throw those names at Clay. He holds the cards, right? Ask Clay if Im ANY of those people...he'll tell you what most folks here already know: i aint. Never denied being BROADWAY...half of the folks here KNEW I playing BROADWAY at the time...cause I told them. And BROADWAY was never 'nice' to Jermaine...In fact all he did was slag Jermaine, with the same crits others do: Doesnt do posters for the band - DERO is Stupid - His dumb 'creatures' are stupid.
The insinuation that I am creating aliases to 'defend' myself or my work...it tells me that theres a lot of venom here. There aint no aliases of Jermaine around here...ASK CLAY. At the risk of sounding egotistical, I dont need to create magical people to defend my work as good or valid or whatever. When my posters sell out, who do you think is buying them? Am I buying them all myself?Misguided as they may be, there are real human beings who buy my prints. And when they come on here to 'defend' what they like, to relegate them to 'aliases' of me, and demean them as being mindless 'slaves' to my juju...thats insulting.
And dont think that means I cant take crit. I try and be smart...and listening to crit makes you smarter. So crit away. I do what I do at the present time because, at the present time, its the only way I know how to do it. I make posters the way I want to...partially because its presently the only way I know how. If it's wrong'...Im doomed.
i tried to go to this show last night, which was supposed to be cool since i did a poster and all... drove two hours only to find out that Northsix decided to cut all the bands' guest lists in half, so there was no way i (and a bunch of the bands' friends) was getting in. screw douchebag hipster williamsburg. i get bad vibes everytime i go to that damn town.
i have conflicting thoughts on this poster, but if bush has to be on it i guess i'd like him to look scary rather than stupid (which is hard, i know).
If I saw another F•cking High On Fire poster using the Berliner font (or Agincort, etc) as your standard 'tough guy' solution I was going to scream. This poster works just fine, and although I usually hate the whiny "look Im Jello Biafra- and I hate Reagan - I wish I was the artist for L.A.'s Wasted Youth, and America's never done anything for me" approach. This is actuall y pretty clever.
I have no intention of insulting Jermaine's style. Like I said, he has done some great work. this is phoned in and doesn't represent the band at all. You collector scum will cream your shorts as usual. carry on.
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You boys are being silly. The sketchy style is what makes it interesting. (see the border? the art is done that way on purpose) This is a matter of taste, do not insult the man's art styles, it shows your jealousy.
Oh Im all for like warrior kings,evil counselors(Cheney's headed for Dante's special circle..why not depict that? OH I know,no one reads anymore)..etc but its just so boring.
High On Fire has a special aura around them, why not do a really killer poster about THEM..not whatever psuedo-hippy tip the artist is on.
I mean seriously...maybe Cheney coulda been holdin a little crucifix with Yoko on it right? also where Kurt? shoulda stuck him in there somewhere.
subject matter not to your liking aside, I think the art is really good. Great use of 3 colors, love the border and the woodcut and shading style. It is done really well. And their expressions really make it..
High On Fire is like..a really good 'idea' for a abnd but they tend to get boring in large doses.
This poster is also boring,poorly executed and ham-fisted.
its neither novel,insightful or visually
HOF is about wizardry and heavy pummeling..is anything, a TRUE HOF fan would be in his tank, slaughtering the enemy and rocking out.
this whole slew of 'political' posters is just bland.
u guys are capable of better work. show some cleverness.
On his own terms yes...
"At the very least he is honest about it."
... but since when does honesty involve fake online personas? To me that seems like a protective measure against pissing off Jermaine fans and potential buyers... like that Paul P dude who thinks Carl Gruber is an actual person.
Honesty is Jermaine speaking as Jermaine. Not Babylover, Ilovegoodtimes, Broadway, Carl Gruber or whoever else he cooks up next.
Jermaine always accomplishes what he sets out to do, and that is make art on his own terms. I think all of the PNE guys who do this for a living make art on their terms, and isn't that what being an artist is all about at the end of the day? If it was just about selling posters, a skull of a dero bear would have been an easier sale- I would have bought that.
Jermiane always accomplishes what he sets out to do. Sell posters. This could say Queens of the Stone Age and it would sell an equal amount of posters.
Jermaine does what Jermaine does. At the very least he is honest about it. It is about Jermaine's art.
if number of comments equaled a succesful poster, withremote's chicken poster PWNEDS all our asses.
why Jermaine needs to invent characters to speak through is too tiring for me to think about.
This is not a metal poster, and totally disrespects the opening bands by not listing them, which I thought was a requirement of being part of the poster series.
personally, I am not a fan of the poster....but somewhere right now jermaine is probably laughing his ass off....some people are gonna love it, some are gonna hate it....but if everyone keeps talking about it.....alot of people are gonna buy it. The poster was obviously enough to grab people's attention and comment on it....like or dislike....so maybe jermaine accomplished what he set out to do....who knows....but I wish I could draw.....and I wish I didn't eat so much at dinner.
I've never commented on this site - but I watched this all day yesterday and it's that Carl Guber guy that caused all this. I do one-sheets for a living and when I'm lucky and my stupid band plays I get to do a gig poster. So I have great respect for the work on this site - far more than I do for the stuff I get paid to do, usually. Anyhow, Guber an idiot and is just trying to screw with people here.
I don't really dig this... I don't get the inclusion Bush and Cheney... if saying that it makes a statement, I say bull, it has no business being on a rock poster unless it is some uber-lefty political band... I think they are just stuck on there for ego purposes.
My take on it is that the army and Cheney are in an uproar, waiting on Bush to do something but Bush is second guessing himself and possibly worried about getting killed by his own troops... Bush looks worried...
but again, why all this is being played out on a High on Fire poster is beyond me.
You read my mind, whitey! In homage to Brad, today's recipe is
8BALL'S BEER CAN CHICKEN
This odd recipe makes some of the most moist, succulent, flavorful barbecued chicken I've ever tasted. The secret: an open can of beer is inserted into the "hole" of the bird, which is cooked upright on the grill. Besides being incredibly tender, the bird makes a great conversation piece. The recipe was inspired by the Bryce Boar Blazers, a barbecue team from Texas I met at the Memphis in May World Championship Barbecue Cooking Contest. They were total assholes which is why I decided to bust out this chicken recipe. Of course, the proper beverage to go with this meal is beer.
1 large whole chicken (4 to 5 pounds)
3 tablespoons Memphis Rub* or your favorite dry barbecue rub
1 can (12 ounces) beer
1. Remove and discard the fat just inside the body cavities of the chicken. OR eat it raw, I don't give a shit. Remove the package of giblets, and set aside for another use. Rinse the chicken, inside and out, under cold running water, then drain and blot dry, inside and out, with paper towels. Sprinkle 1 tablespoon of the rub inside the body and neck cavities, the rub another 1 tablespoon all over the skin of the bird. If you wish, rub another 1/2 tablespoon of the mixture between the flesh and the skin. Cover and refrigerate the chicken while you preheat the grill.
2. Set up the grill for indirect grilling placing a drip pan in the center. If using a charcoal grill, preheat it to medium.
If using a gas grill, place all the wood chips in the smoker box and preheat the grill to high; then, when smoke appears, lower the heat to medium.
3. Pop the tab on the beer can. Using a "church key" –style can opener, make 6 or 7 holes in the top of the can. Drink the top inch of beer, then spoon the remaining dry rub through the holes into the beer. Holding the chicken upright, with the opening of the body cavity down, insert the beer can into the bird.
4. When ready to cook, if using charcoal, toss half the wood chips on the coals. Oil the grill grate. Stand the chicken up in the center of the hot grate, over the drip pan. Spread out the legs to form a sort of tripod, to support the bird.
5. Cover the grill and cook the chicken until fall-off-the-bone tender, 2 hours. If using charcoal, add 10 to 12 fresh coals per side and the remaining wood chips after 1 hour.
6. Using tongs, lift the bird to a cutting board or platter, holding the metal spatula underneath the beer can for support. (Have the board or platter right next to the bird to make the move shorter. Be careful not to spill hot beer on yourself.) Let stand for 5 minutes before carving the meat off the upright carcass. (Toss the beer can out along with the carcass or just crush the can on someone else's skull.)
I don't really know what i expected. This just leaves me scratching my head. I like alot of his posters, just think this one is a miss. it will, of course be sold out in a day cause that's how jermaine rolls. Good on Jermaine. I wanted to have a serious discussion about this but it won't happen here cause Jermaine is like, god to some people. I agree that the bohemian grove thing is kinda cool but still don't get how this relates to high on fire, unless the skullviking imagery is enough for you. not enough for me but i'm picky...
so yeah. the type bugs me more than anything. too cartoony for this band.
oh my, lots of heat on this one...
well i'm bringing the posters to the band tomorrow for jermaine since it's a few blocks away from my loft. i'll let you know what they think. i bet they're gonna freakin love it...
i dig how it looks like a woodcut. and the green makes them look like a scary plastic army.
I've mannaged to comment quite a few times with out actually saying anything, which is a talent;)
But really I don't mind the Bush/Cheney inclusion. My only qualm would be that it seems like the Bush/Cheney rock poster has been done enough. But then again so has the standard skull, blood and flame metal poster.
Personally, i am not sure why everyone is so upset about very bad likenesses of Grushkin and King ? I wish i had my own army though.
Is that the art of rock 3 book in their hands? The price of admission, your s o u l !
My 2 cents, if I may digress from the name-calling.
I've never heard HOF, but from what I've seen of other posters that were deemed "appropriate" for them,
it seems fairly on target. You got your skull, a pair of ghouls, armor and pointy stuff.
As far as putting a political statement on a poster goes, my PERSONAL take on it is that it
trivializes the impact of the message.
I've done quite a few anti-Bush posters, but I wouldn't use an advertisement for a rock show to
push that agenda.
If the band likes it, that's the bottom line, and I bet they do.
I do not pretend to know everything.. but I went to art schoool full of idiots like you..
Your.. "art".. you ..will be just a sad footnote in the history of posters, if at all..
go back to Howard Stern, you were a little funnier there..
Yeah, Jermaine, next time you do a poster, just make it some "ghoul" like Richie Goodtime's High On Fire posters. They are apparently the way posters are supposed to be. Or better yet, put a jpeg of your face on the poster.
Look at the other HoF posters.. demons, Hell themes, Anti-christs, blood, damnation themes.
The pair on this poster are the embodiment of all that evil. it not political, its logical. makes sense to most I would think.
this poster, (finally!) is the catalyst to spark an important dialogue on gigposters about the importance of spreading the "word of the people".
and what better venue than the rock poster?
i, for one, CAN THINK OF NONE!
thanks for waking us up. thanks for making us think--for a change!
there are way too many high on fire posters out there..
this is one of the few that will stand the test of time.
you want an artist not to have an ego? go work for an inhouse company.
great colors. great art.
this would have been way better with bush and chaney removed and leaving just a line of the background bad ass lookin dudes.
i dont think this is the right forum (a high on fire poster) for any political statements of any sort.
just my opinion.
Sorry, I'm just being obnoxious while trying to make a point. All kidding aside, please tell me what I'm missing here. I think this is a very nicely-rendered piece, & I especially like the drawn border & type. But if you're telling me there's something unique & original here with the use of Bush imagery, I'm just not seeing it.
Jermaine has often used political figures or tragic celebrities in his work. Looking at the broad scope of Jermaine's portfolio, and knowing that is part of why I love this.
Beautiful rendering of both Bush & Cheney.
Are those Deros in the masks?
I kinda get this, I'm just sick of seeing Bush on posters. It's been done a jillion times already, & Jermaine is certainly capable of coming up with something other folks haven't done to death.
Having said that, if I felt strongly about using a particular image to make a statement, Im sure I'd do it no matter who thought what.
no it's just silly. it's ego driven. this is not a political band. this is a joke. a joke at the expense of high on fire if you ask me.
But because this is a Jermaine we won't have a proper dialog about it.