links please!
she was RIGHT UPFRONT.. and her keyboard was slanted down and away from her, so she kinda bent over it... facing directly out to the audience... and she was like really cute to look at.
also, natasha appeared on homme's desert sessions. pretty hot with a great voice...
jack irons (who played with PJ for a while and used to play with RHCP [who PJ opened for way back when]) now plays with 'eleven'. it's all so damn incestuous.
i thought the solo tours he was backed buy a full band (like an actual put together band already).. and he got them to back him.. i forget the name, but i remember the keyboardist was a really hot woman who was built great.. fuck someone remind me the name of the band. :o
i saw him live, same night that we had a danzig show.. i had to see chris cause my wife and friends were into him... he crooned all night, and it was terrible. like a lounge singer. i remember the other guys from the electric factory coming over to me telling me they were off to see danzig and made fun of me cause i had to stay.
what was the name of the band that backed chris.. dammit. im drawing a blank.
I saw SG on the Badmotorfinger tour as well...Cornell came out alone for a couple songs...we were kind off the side of the stage...in the opposite wing Matt Cameron was doing chin-ups to keep loose---through Cornell's entire solo session (2 or 3 songs)..that was after playing probably 7 or songs!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also, frank -
susan could be a great asset on your side. she would stop at nothing to get things done (for HER band). but, if you ever had her unhappy with you for any reason - well, let's just say it's a memorable experience. i was just about professionally destroyed and i was actually professionally embarrassed all across the country. she had incredible clout and played total war. you'd be destroyed and never find out who or why.
in fact, my "experience" with sg and silver has never been fully explained to me, even though over the years i've taken every single power plyer involved (including susan) out to lunch and asked them point blank what happened. never got a straight answer. all i knew was that i had mud smeared all over my reuptation from ny to la and people i hadn't heard from in years were calling me up to express condolensces and pity for me. it took me about 2 weeks to finally figger out what happened.
it's a long story and one i'd rather forget.
but, like i said, in this particular case, karma took it's toll.
frank -
you got kim mixed up with pavitt. bruce studies "alternative realities" with obscure aboriginal drugs found in the amazon and sits and listens to the stooges at high volume (no joke).
last i heard anything about kim, he pretty much sat around drinking beer and playing video games.
frank -
you got kim mixed up with pavitt. bruce studies "alternative realities" with obscure aboriginal drugs found in the amazon and sits and listens to the stooges at high volume (no joke).
last i heard anything about kim, he pretty much sat around drinking beer and playing video games.
yeah, alice, soundgarden and pearl jam, were all part of susan's business at first. then she hired a fella name of kelley curtis (who's claim to the rock biz was runnig heart's fan club and managing some really bad bar bands in the early 1980's). thene there was a little fiasco involving missing funds and rehab and the business split up with susan taking sg and alice and leaving pj with curtis.
sha had total pull. when I had a problem or 2 with the label rep duribg the video shoot all I had to do was tell her and within 20 minutes problem solved.
got this blurb press for susan
"Susan Silver Chris' wife and manager of Soundgarden. They met in 1985 when Susan was already a name on the Seattle scene, both as a booker for various clubs and a manager of the infamous U-Men. She became Soundgarden's manager in 1987, going on to manage and help a host of bands such as Alice in Chains, Sponge and Sweetwater. Chris and Susan married in September 1990; they have one child, Lillian Jean, born June 2000"
art.. we have talked on the phone about soundgarden before... and was very interesting...
frank - it was seattle. it was ALWAYS cool to hate your success. just look at "little kurt" (as everybody knew him as).
loo, they ccould always say "no", but they made millions. not bad pay for 7 years of hell. now matt and ben are just having fun making music they like, kim dropped out of sight and is just spending money, and chris? well, chris is still trying to be a "rock star".
spot the difference.
the bass guy was like an asian kid...Chris always would complain that all he wanted to do was be in a cool punk band...
he I believe really hated his 'success'.
i have real mixed feelings about that band (obviously). i REALLY respected them after "nothing to say" and i really really liked kim and matt and their original bassist (whose name escapes me now. he quit to go back to school and finish his pharmacy degree).
but the whole "susan silver/rock star god trip" was pretty scary and offputting. it was like there were two bands in conflict fighting for some sayso with susan always having the final say. ugly.
i had some pretty horrific experiences at their hands back then, business-wise. but in a strange way, by screwing with me, they got locked into that 7-yr contract from hell. it's a long story, but in the end, i really think 'karma' exists.
dude./..by the end of Sg he totally hated her.
it was weird. He wanted me to somehow work in him killing her in a video.
I think they are divorced right?
she ran that band with an iron fist. total domination.
she used to be a cool punk chick, then she took "EST" training and became a power monger in the seattle rock scene. she really had it all by the short and curlies.
matt cameron was a real "secret weapon" in soundgarden. he was basically an extremely experienced jazz drummer killing time (for fun) in a rock band. then it became huge. now he's pigeonholed as a rock drummer, but he actually is an exquisite "percussionist". very delicate and complex ideas.
he was probably the single most respected drummer (by other musicians) in the seatle rock scene back then.
i really personally like kim. he was a real mensch. he hated being in that band but was locked into a 7-yr contract of total servitude. if he quit, he'd have to give the money back. sad but true.
the very day that contract expired, they split up the band.
dunno what he's doing now.
did you know he came out to seattle because his old buddy from chicago (where they grew up) bruce pavitt, said it was a cool place to be in a band? he has a degree in philosophy, and was working on his post=graduate degree.
go figger.
chris cornell is actually dumb as a stump (in my estimation). after having worked with him, all i can say is that he has the great luck to surround himself with clever and smart people.
not a dis, just an observation.
jeph: not to worry, after hanging out here for a good 6 or seven months i developed a hardened shell and only allow sincerity to drip out at a very controlled rate. i call it my GP drip.
for the record: i always thought (hoped) that cornell's 'rock god' persona (tearing pre-ripped t-shirts off after the first song etc.) was merely a theatrical thing and somewhat ironic. if it was SINCERE, then: YIKES. still, the band rocked for some good years there.
I listened to my "nothing to say" 45 the other day and it flat out rocks. Nice and heavy. I dig Soundgarden. They would have seemed stagnant to me if they hadn't evolved. They still had their sound just with a little more melody.
I sincerely liked the Screaming Life/Fopp stuff. I sincerely thought UltraMegaOK and Louder than Love were all right. I sincerely thought everything else was pretty bad. And I'm not striking the old-school pose of "they sold out" or anything. I actually got into them late, moved backwards in their catalog, and ended up dismissing most of it in the end. They're sort of a silly band.
I sincerely think enothing is a wee bitfey.
Brian, you gotta watch Tom, he thrives on naivete and takes joy at poking fun of sincere thoughts. I would guess because he cannot put fortha sincere thought himself. He's very "passive aggresive".
"Thank God Soundgarden never saved my life."
not sure what you meant by that, but i obviously didn't mean it literally... soundgarden were a great outlet for a fucked up 16 year old. that's all i meant. and i made those comments before i had figured out that these forums were not a place for sincerity. silly me. i will forever regret my naiveté and the ridicule it evokes... *sniff*
Soundgarden never saved my life either but they made some great records. "Jesus Christ Pose" from Badmotorfinger is far and away my favorite song from them. Actually my favorite band from that whole "explosion" was Alice In Chains, only because they were a little more "metal" and I'm a simpleton. I liked the first 2 Pearl Jam records then they became a bit too self righteous for my tatses, and quite frankly started writing shitty music.
As burned out as the public eventually got of the "Seattle sound", you have to admit that you were a part of something magical back in '91. At the time, that music was nothing like what you would expect to become such a mega-monster. The magnitude of the sudden explosion in popularity must have been dizzying.
silly little story: badmotorfinger and nirvana's nevermind were released on exactly the same day back in 91. at the rocket we had the great idea of having the same cover layout, but with two alternating photos of nirvana and soundgarden (our printing setup allowed us to do something like this) so that every other cover would be either just nirvana or just soundgarden. we had it all set up and ready to go to press, when soundgarden's "management" nixed the idea and said, "soundgaredn doesn't share covers with anybody, man!"
so, we just ran nirvana.
turned out to be the smartest move anyway.
i have a lot of respect for 3/5s of soundgarden (the bassist, the guitarist and the drummer). it's the singer/manager combo i (and most of seattle) had problems with.
define "pussy-whipped"...
i bet everyone that cut up this photo wishes he/she were better looking. i'm serious... sometimes this shit boils down to mere envy. sad but true. chris cornell is a handsome mofo and has the voice of god... dont hate him because he's beautiful... or sells records. i'm off to get my beauty sleep now so i can sell some posters tomorrow! :D
wow, i guess i'm a big loser for loving soundgarden... they fucking saved my life when i was a kid. and the offshoots fucking rocked too... hater, wellwater, both rule. sometimes people can be so bloody small...
you never know....there are alot of sensitive types on this site like MaxFlo and I dont want to be stepping on any feet or heads or nothin...except maybe Chris Cornell's...fricken fag.
Soundgarden were awesome... better live in a small venue/bar I think, as oposed to big stadium.. just from the shows i saw anyways. I always wondered what Chris's solo stuff wouldve been since hearing Seasons onthe Singles soundtrack... I think hes doing ok... solo album was good, but I spose, not soundgarden...
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