whoa, randomisOR...jeez, what a conversation going on...look dudes, the word is genre. i think this poster is read, and has a little guston in it, which i like, that's just how i like to see it, i'm sure. i like that seripop doesn't say "hey man, stop stealing my imagery" because it's clearly not seripop, not because it's worse, it's not worse. it's like when painters who use circles get all uptight if someone starts drawin circles.
this is a rad poster, and, what i'd like to notice is that the eighties are back in places that have winter/grey raininess more so than places that don't, which puts a whole new spin on things.
btw, i like eighties revival far more than the real thing.
fffffffffffff....
[seripop 2005-05-12 15:34:55
bdix
2005-05-09 10:06:07
"I know I'll catch hell for saying this, but if it said "Seripop" instead of "Devon Varmega"......."
i like to think that our layout, text and general desing are stronger than this. if this DID say seripop i wouldn't be too happy with it.]
Yizzawn...*clearly* this is nowhere near as finely worked as a Seripop.
Interested to see what he comes up w/ next.
All on you Varmega.
Don't fuck it up.
ok.. I've seen Seripop works since my first year at Concordia which was in 2002 til now and I must admit that when I first saw this poster first thing that came to my mind was "Seripop!" but when I click on it to have a closer look, I was wrong. Anyways.. I know Seripop does really good work and why I thought it was them was the shapes of the illustration and the bright colours but hey, I know that alot of young new artists gets inspired by other artists/designers but when it comes to looking almost the same.. it's just lame.
Maybe take comfort that the style has become influencial.
I've always thought that the "seripop style" was like the illustrations of a 5 year old as interpreted by a design school snob.
But for some reason I am drawn to it. Maybe because most art I haven't liked was do to me not understanding it. Some of the things I hated 10 years ago are some of my favorites today. Maybe I just need to give it time...
heh he dan
maybe we will
just trace that face,,, ha ha
all the men in the house say ho
hey
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/chloescum/HotDogger1.jpg
daniel hit it though -- this is a case of pretty close apeing, so its clear that some are going to have trouble differentiating. the key though, is that it IS possible (and quite easy) to differentiate them upon closer inspection. in conclusion: don't kill yourself chloe. i need more posters.
...the layout of the texturing in the background as well as the lettering are both giveaways that this is not Seripop. Sure, it looks like it from far -- but again, that's coming back to there being a clear ape-ing going on here. er....one of the hot links in the bottom right of gigposters.com reads: EAT POO. that made me laugh out loud and forget whatever somewhat intelligent thing i was going to say...
it cant possibly be news to you that not everyones going to have a grasp on how to define/identify what your style is, and how to seperate it from imitations. and when someone seemingly MEANS to go after your style, that makes the seperation even harder.
Just my opinion. On the other hand, I'm sure there are much more people that could tell right away that this wasn't yours.
But here's a question... are you saying that this poster/artist is really that bad, or are you saying that you're really that good?
well bdix that is pretty fucmking depressing. i guess if people view this work as identical to ours then our future is pretty grimm ideed.
i'm gonna go kill myself now
Honestly, without having "studied" your work, I would assume this was a Seripop if there was no artist info. And I believe for the most part, a lot of other people would too.
bdix
2005-05-09 10:06:07
"I know I'll catch hell for saying this, but if it said "Seripop" instead of "Devon Varmega"......."
i like to think that our layout, text and general desing are stronger than this. if this DID say seripop i wouldn't be too happy with it.
KevinJones
2005-05-09 10:31:22
" i did have a hard time telling whether that SMOOSH poster that i saw hanging in the local REGGAE RECORD STORE was a seripop and not something that hairparty did."
that's just flat out insulting
I really don't see the relation in between Seripop & Caroline Sury's work ! Really not !
And sorry, but, I could see from the little Jpeg that it was not a Seripop poster.
there is nothing new under the sun.
all good design is inspired by better design.
i think devon is talented, but yeh ... i think he needs to take some time and experiment with different things. i did have a hard time telling whether that SMOOSH poster that i saw hanging in the local REGGAE RECORD STORE was a seripop and not something that hairparty did.
There is like a whole generation of dudes who are hoping to become famous artists by pretending to have thought of something first. It's really weird.
Gallery Night was last Friday here-- a lot of nervous smiles, gallons of flopsweat.
that's kind of what I was thinking. cause like... i'm in nebraska and nobody's heard of seripop here. So I come off as being totally rad with these cool posters (that I CERTAINLY don't post here), but I'm just erasing the text out of seripop posters and putting in indie-rock band names.
And don't tell me that I'm not working hard, YOU try getting text out of seripop posters. sheesh.
That comment about the internet making it too easy for young artists to copy, rip, and quote without other people catching on:
NAIL ON THE FUIXCKONG HEADD
Personally I think Seripop have their own thing going and this dude is talented, but copping them too much. Time to learn what you can, mutate and move on.
Yeh, so le dernier cri was a HUGE influence on the whole fort thunder thing- although they brought something distinctly American to it- and Seripop (who have their own distinct style rather than a sum of influences) work with a lot of bands associated with that whole scene, etc. etc...you could go all the way back to Dubuffet if you want, namecheck whoever, whatever. The fact is the i-net makes it too easy for the "youth of today" to be "influenced", and that is the case here.
I still contend this dude has something, and maybe if he pays attention to the more salient of these comments he might turn it into something else.
Personally i spent most of age 18 face down in a drug induced stupor :oops:
this is getting a little ridiculous. You can site the work of Sury as an influence on seripop but the difference between seripop vs. sury and this dude vs. seripop is a whole different animal. The problem here is that Seripop's influence on this fella is the only visible influence that he brings to the table. You wouldn't see a seripop piece and say ohhhh thats gotta be a poster by caroline, seripop drew on that influence (hell maybe they didnt, just an example) and brought their own shit to the table. There has been no shit brought to this table.
I think the problem isn't that a style is being copped, because admittedly, Seripop's work comes out of a variety of sources, and you can track similar design work from other artists. The problem with Devon's work is that a lof of the posters, you can take any individual element and see where it came from IN seripop's work from months before. The end work ends up coming across like a mix of 2-3 rips of Seripop posters, rather than original work within a certain style. I think it's obvious that Devon's got a certain amount of design talent, because the nods to Seripop (whether admitted or not, or subconscious or not) are often done failry competently. If Devon just learns to take that extra step...the resulting posters might prove to be really interesting. Right now, most of them seem to be exercises in mashing up Seripop's older work.
Seripop is doing very cool shit but they didn't spring outta nowhere; there is a tradition of Gaelic acidhead screening primitives. Look up Caroline Sury.
they are really good actually.
if you like teenage jesus and the jerks or dna, you'd like 7YRC. its not straight no wave....theres a bit of a folk and noise jam element to it.
www.freeporcupinesociety.com
rob fisk did the deerhoof artwork.
he runs the best label in the entire world, makes some great art, and plays in a really good band called 7 year rabbit cycle.
these "lynchings" are pretty funny....they seem to be more of gang beatings meet popularity contests in the 2nd grade.
its life.
"Imitation is the sincerest form of being an unoriginal thieving bastard"
-VLS.
This dude may have yet to find his own voice but he clearly has talent-otherwise i doubt he would get such a kicking.
when I saw this poster I excitedly clicked on it thinking, awesome, new seripop, and then I was surprised and somewhat disappointed that it wasnt'. I love me some seripop. imitation is the sincerest form of flattery they say. that being said, perhaps this is a touch too sincere. I, on the other hand, like this poster pretty well.. .
... Copying, getting inspired, ripping off, what ever !... we all do that...
continue to work hard and you will find your own personal style.
....
Seripop is a good influence.
Dont I wish.
Im jes sayin that if he wants to rock a psychedelic style, pulling an ALtered States and goin off to do Peyote with an Indian Chief would be a step in the right direction
it's funny, this same subject came up on one of his other posters that was submitted like sic months ago. Still doesn't seem like he's taken it that extra step from immitation to innovation. So in the end this is the same thing seripop was doing three or four years ago.
Look Devon, even though I think this is a straight up bite, an untalented hack couldnt replicate it THIS well.
This means youre talented, but ya really need to find your own way. And I meanthat wanting to be helpful.
My advice to you is to drive to Arizona, get out of the car and walk in to the desert.
When you lose your bearings, take a cap of mescaline. Dont come back until your found your vibe.
Devon does very good work. He takes the Seripop style and does variations of it. I would suggest, though, that ultimately it's not really impressive to be in another artist's style shadow. But I hear the dude is young. This will likely be his apprentice period. If you look, say, at Dali's early work (before it looked like Dali), he was biting many of the masters' styles. It's a formative thing.
Perhaps Im wrong.
I'll admit it.
But EVERY SINGLE TIME I see his "new look", I see SeriPop.
As usual, I could be wrong.
But this style looks nothing at all like his old stuff, and based on that I am fully prepared to accept the consequences of calling "bullshit"
Even though MaxFlo totally hates me, I gotta say he is dead fucking on.
Being in the same culture is one thing, but you are straight up SeriPop Karaoke dude.
You add nothing. You just bite.
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