Comment #300. Just saw this at the Martha Street Studio, and this .jpg doesn't do it justice. In fact, there are a number of Seripop pieces that I originally thought were so-so, which turned out to be WAY better up close and personal. Do yourself a favor and buy their shit.
For fuck's sake. There are more than 2 fucking viewpoints to this.
I give up.
Hi there. THAT'S EXACTLY MY POINT. Maxflo made a passing comment about stereotypical/non-cliched imagery, and I hate how things get reduced to that, just like I hate the reductionism of the designer/illustrator debate. There's so much more going on, which I tried to get at in my previous post, and was hoping some people would take further, or attempt to answer. Instead, I got one-line reductionism. Not really complaining, because, afterall, this IS gigposters.com comments sections, not a graduate seminar, but still...my point is that I think exactly like you do. There's way more out there than one or the other.
I should also say that I don't think Maxflo was really reducing this to the two oppositions, but it was what reminded me of how others have done so in the past, and in this very thread. So yeah, that isn't a critique of Maxflo.
yup risingson, i think think too that this 'thread' is too difficult since everybody started his own discussion..
well, ffffffff.. doesnt matter, this frustration-discussion will show up again and again andagainneniaidn....
"Personally, I don't like the opposition set up often of stereotypical imagery as good vs. non-cliched imagery as bad, nor the opposite (aka stereotypical as bad, non-cliched as good). I think there's a chair at the proverbial dinner table for both..."
For fuck's sake. There are more than 2 fucking viewpoints to this.
I give up.
Personally, I don't like the opposition set up often of stereotypical imagery as good vs. non-cliched imagery as bad, nor the opposite (aka stereotypical as bad, non-cliched as good). I think there's a chair at the proverbial dinner table for both...
i think it works as a stand alone poster for a rock band. imagery and its relevance to a bands sound can be so ambiguous that this one works just as well as another more obvious image..i think its cool, and arty doesnt necessarily mean wrong, or crap..this poster in particular provokes thoughts and imagery for a band of qotsa's ilk very well...its different to the obvious, but thats whats cool about music and art, its flexible
I don't undertstand this incessent need to avoid cliche'd imagry. Maybe people LIKE the "indoctrinated stereotypical" ideas and concepts.Just maybe they do. I know that makes them simple unsoffisticated mouth breathing idiots, but the world needs all types.
Jello...this is just my inclination but I kinda think that all of your posters look a like...and even though I've been seeing this style for a couple of years now, you're trying to lead me to believe that this is the newest latest.
Well I'm not buying it. You're guilty of the same indoctination attempts as the rest of us.
That being said...I still think Chloe can do whatever the hell she wants. She's created her own visual language and that's something into itself.
Just don't try and bullshit me into thinking it's new.
"I hated this upon first look. Now, after reading some comments and going back and looking again, I'm starting to dig it."
MAYBE NOW YOU ALL GET (OR BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND) HOW ALL THE STEREOTYPES* OF MOST OF THE QOTSAs (and other bands) ARTWORK DO THEIR JOB.
DONT LET STEREOTYPES INDOCTRINATE YOUR MIND BY SOME CHEAP MARKETING EFFECT!
*(=repeating the same visuals again and again by no matter who :| )
I occasionally do artwork for clients I'm not thrilled about as well, also to pay the bills. I'm saying that to me, this poster looks uninspired, as if the artist was either unfamiliar with their music or just didn't care. Turns out that was exactly the case.
Earlier this year, I had the opportunity to be in a similar situation as PNE, with the Austin City Limits poster series. I got to choose which artists did certain posters in the series. All were paying gigs. As much as possible, I tried to match up good artists with bands they were into because I felt they would produce their best work. There were a couple of artists that I would have loved to have in the series that declined because they didn't identify with the band. If anyone had openly blasted me for getting the gig, or specifically stated that they didn't like the band I offered to them, I would not have delegated that gig to that artist. I could easily find someone else who would do a better job.
That's what I'm sayin'.
Perky Perkins just said: "Regardless of how much respect I may have for an artists' work, I personally would not delegate a job to them that they felt this way about"
I dunno,... as a professional, I've spent twenty fucking years doing art for clients I despised, from MTV to Anheisher Busche,... I did a High Times cover, even though I've been clean for nearly two decades. I made them art, they were happy, I made money, they made a whole lot more money, so it goes,... I did posters for ICP & Godsmack! A professional should be able to get around their personal commitment to how he/she feel about the client.
Do you feel the art itself is uninspired, or the way the art does or does not represent the band is uninspired?
"yeah i'm a whiny jealous loser
i don't like queens of the stone age and don't feel any need to do art for them at all "
I hadn't even read that yet when I commented on this the first time, but that's exactly how this image came across to me- completely uninspired. Regardless of how much respect I may have for an artists' work, I personally would not delegate a job to them that they felt this way about.
No, no, that's exactly the point I'm trying to make. I'm asking what y'all think the lines should be. There has to be an element of singularization AND an element of a more homogenized aesthetic or whatever's considered "fitting." I don't think one should just go crazy with a personal image of a band. Why I chose to bring up all the stuff here is that there clearly IS a few very fitting elements for Queens, to me, Seripop and a lot of other people. I think this is a good case of balancing the two. No?
The chicken, I don't know...don't remember that poster at all. But I'd assume that it had no real connection aesthetically or concept-wise?
More than making points, I'm asking questions. You guys are the experts, and I want to know what YOU think.
Some good points, but still I don't get it, the guy that did that Chicken poster got flamed to hell for that, maybe it exactly represented Rifle Sport to him, maybe he's more in tune with a visual style for Rifle Sport than they are. Seripop said that poster was crappy and had "fuck all to do with the music". As a fan of Queens I think the same applies here. Too often there's one rule for some and another for others here on GP. i think that's all I'm going to say on this one.
Nice work Shawn.
I think I agree with that post more than most of the others so far.
Except for the ones about how camping is fun.
Furthermore, I totally agree (although sheepishly so) that the band is NOT ALWAYS the final judge in terms of what fits them the best. I mean for example, what if the dudes in this 'QOTSA' that you're all speaking of were big fans of Thomas Kinkade and thought that only his paintings best represented their sound. I mean, we would all know better, but if that's their personal (untrained) opinion, I would say that it is wrong.
This is obviously an over-exaggeration, but I think that the reasoning behind it is valid. Sometimes, believe it or not, (AND NOT ALWAYS) the "designer" or "artist" is more attuned as to what best suits the musician visually. That's what they DO.
It's funny how all this works.
To me, this is perfectly legible and perfectly fitting. Goad made a comment about if this was drawn on a binder in class, blah blah. I think that's sort of the point with this one. Queens of the Stone Age are sort of a cool rock band that have been striking a chord with the kids, these days. Their references to classic rock make the doodle lettering a perfect fit. It's as if some kid was bored in class, waiting for the show (Detroit Rock City-style), and doodlin' about his favourite band to kill the time. It also hints back to the great 'Revolver' album cover that was copped time and time again. That style of drawing carries a lot of history with it, history which, given the classic rock, pop sensibilities, but filtered through fucked up stoner rock of QOTSA (just as the overall design is fucked with here), makes sense as a reference.
Also, I think some of y'all need better glasses. This is really easy to read.
A LOT of people have pointed out, the abstracted snake/sperm/balls thing seems to really make sense, and I would agree. It's funny how that sort of thing, since it's so sexualized, and so inherent in a lot of rock 'n' roll, can come to be so closely associated with Queens specifically -- but I think it is anyway! Also, I'm not a fan of the band, but even I caught the reference to that played to death video.
I would disagree that the band are the final judge on whether this fits them or not. Maybe they are the final judge on if THEY like it, but fitting...nah. Everyone who hears a band is involved in producing the meaning of their music. It's the way we singularize the homogenized act of music listening. If everyone produces the meaning of a band, then who's to say that this doesn't fit? I don't mean to take this to an extreme, where every poster is fitting, but, I think most agree that elements of it (this specific poster) ARE fitting...so its arguing over the details...A band CAN control their own image, and refuse to let others create one for them, to a certain extent. That said, when they're commissioning these types of posters, one would think they're open to such ideas. And if not, fuck 'em. This poster makes Queens 10x cooler in my books.
Accusations that Seripop are guilty of a Seripop aesthetic are a little ridiculous. Most poster designers on here work within a specific style, or a few specific styles (not to say that all their work is the same). Every designer seems to subject bands to their own work. I don't see that as a bad thing; on the contrary, it's what makes it all interesting. When I compare this poster to one say that Seripop did for a secret show, or one they did for a Lightning Bolt/Chinese Stars show, I see a real difference, and a real attempt to take the band in mind.
This may not fit all of your views of what Queens is about, but it does Seripops, and it does mine, and it does some other people. I like reading the points back and forth...and I like knowing that people disagree. But, for those who think it doesn't fit, my question is: how does one ensure that it fits? Does one simply copy a previously established aesthetic for the band? Does one make guesses as to what OTHERS think the band represents? Or does one interpret the band oneself, and work that way. The latter seems the best option to me -- and Seripops references to Queens seems to suggest that they kept the other two in mind. In the end, if no one thinks they're doing their job right, they won't keep getting commissions. But lords knows they're doing a lot right.
People posting under fake names are a far worse offense than making posters that don't fit the band. I simply will never understan why people do that. Either have the balls to say what you think under your own name or keep your thoughts to yourself.
The facetious part was if I would change my oppinion if this poster were for, let's say, the Damned, or Social D,... or the Ramones,...
QOTSA = JCPenny's & Food Court of music
Guess I'm not doing a poster, huh? ;)
Topraman said "I think that seripop is the epitome or self-indulgent crap. They do whatever they want, with no regard to communication, legibility or the band itself. Some people dig it as "different". It take a TRUE designer to communicate. Thats why we do what we do."
Riiiggght. And QOTSA is some corporate rock mall band. There's so little to communicate about this band because like every other banal middle of the road dumbed down for the masses band that is on the radio these days, they aren't saying anything.
Let Chloe do her thing. Why the hell not? Music sucks, the least she can do is light a fire under an ass or two,...
I would agree with your comment if this poster was for a cool band! ;)
i never figured that dennyschmockle for such a hothead...jeez...what to blow a gasket, dude. i'm totally gonna follow him around a flatstock and say grey and centre and stuff like that over and over again until he flips out.
"Yet if you look back at comment threads on Seripop posters you'll find a lot of these same sprawling heated threads. The fact that we are "talking about it" over and over and over again is what gives it validity. Frankly I'm amazed people who dislike thier stuff or repeatedly find it inappropriate still care so much at this point to engage in these debates. It's like they fear it almost. If they don't keep saying "the emperor has no clothes" they are terrified that everyone will soon be naked on the streets.
Give it a fucking rest. "
And all the talk about seripops stuff aint about the BANDS either. It was about the ART.
Any of you folks that dont think its art...well, youre fooling yrselves...whether you believe it or not.
Maybe Grushkin and King shoulda called their book, 'THE AD OF MODERN ROCK'?
Some of you cats are SO 'black' or 'white'.
Going completely aggro-ego on poster work you do is stupid. So is seeing yourslef as a flesh-machine for your client...unless you dig being a mechanism for them PERIOD. In that case...dont sign yr name on your posters. Cause who cares?
The answer is always in the grey.
You CAN do both.
Stop choosing 'camps'...
I don't really have too many comments on this poster. It looks like a seripop. I don't think it particularly fits the band, but I gave up on that argument a while ago.
I just think many of the arguments are lame. Too many times the point of the "gigposters" is forgotten behind ego. Not neccesarily this poster or seripop, but some of the people commenting on all of this.
Seripop deserve the attention they get. They put the work in and made thier mark. I am proud of them. It's been cool to see them excel and suceed doing what they love to do. Trying to bash them for that is lame. Very lame and reeks of jealousy.
i hate to disagree with you, mr. dennyschmickle, sir, but some people actually spell it "centre." it's not like you to be so irrational and intolerant.
(yeah...i totally called you that on purpose. :P )
"It must be good cause we're still talking about it is a bullshit point of validity."
"True. If that were the case the chicken poster would be the best poster ever?"
Richie & Fish,
I agree to a point if this was an isolated case with Seripop's stuff. However, that chicken poster guy could do a few more of those, and I doubt it would raise much of an eyebrow here.
Yet if you look back at comment threads on Seripop posters you'll find a lot of these same sprawling heated threads. The fact that we are "talking about it" over and over and over again is what gives it validity. Frankly I'm amazed people who dislike thier stuff or repeatedly find it inappropriate still care so much at this point to engage in these debates. It's like they fear it almost. If they don't keep saying "the emperor has no clothes" they are terrified that everyone will soon be naked on the streets.
Give it a fucking rest.
"This poster has impact and obviously makes an impression."
Exactly. People who see this and don't know what its for will want to find out. People who see this and know what its for will talk about it whether they like it or not. The previous 164 posts prove that.
I LOVE THIS GODAMNED POSTER! IT MAKES ME WANNA DRINK AND FIGHT AND LISTEN TO ROCK AND ROLL AND HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX WITH SOME SKANKY CHICK I JUST PICKED UP AT A DIVE BAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good job Seripop!
Seripop was chosen to mix things up with their experimental esthetic. The band itself has an semi prog-experimental style in their approach to rock. It might not reflect the exact vibe of the album but it does capture the bands spirit.
This poster has impact and obviously makes an impression. The goal of a successful poster is always to draw you in and make you want to know what it's about. Whether you like this or not, ALL of you were drawn in. Kudos to you Seripop and thanks for the addition to the series!
I once told a promoter that I thought the posters for his club were boring and
he said: "Well I don't want people taking them down!" and then he laughed, and I laughed and then we
listened to some ac/dc.
Tgeres also the fact that a band like QOTSA isnt really relying on this poster for sales.
Theyll sell out anyway, and are probably doing admats and things all over town.
They can appreciate this poster as a curiosity and an artistic lark, and move on to the next city cause it doesnt really impact them much on the bottom line.
When they use this as a national campaign, then well talk about that.
Plus, when you make the assertion about how "all great artists" have started, you load your words.
Perhaps unitentionally, but you protect your subject by mixing it in with an untouchable class of legenary artists.
Will SP achieve the same things and set the world on fire too?
Well it almost doesnt matter, because statements like that make it seem like a foregone conclusion.
And my biggest problem, as I stated below, is that this entire time the SP party-line defense has been the popular "Noise Rock" card. How does that fit in here?
if the band liked it, sometimes that's tied in enough. this whole argument would make sense is a band just hated the poster and an artist went ahead and made it anyway. that not being the case apparently, my arugment remains intact for me. this is clearly an SP work. why it seems more self-indulgent to some of you than other SP works i can't say. i might on a semi-corny but related note that a band with the words "Stone Age" in it does not seem contradictory to a "primitive" design.
that's me. i'm just sayin'.
You know...ALL the artists who are legends...you know, the ones who are in the history books? The ones whose work you pay to see? They all had one thing in common: they all were so devoted to their vision, that they tried to bring the world around to IT, rather than vica-versa.
So like...youve got a choice:
you can be like...an 'employee' for your client...do exactly whats expected. Yea...youll get paid. Your bills will get paid. Youll have 'steady' work...whatever that is.
Or you can go for the history books...and regulary shake things up. The one thing a lot of artists have to learn is something that Warhol said once: 'The artist creates the illusion and his job is to sell it to the world over and over until they THINK its reality.' Seripop did it THEIR way. Their JOB is to make YOU believe that this works for the show. The TRICK is to walk the line and accomplish BOTH: doing your own thing...AND pleasing the client. It takes guts...and youll have to test your client over and over...to see how far theyll let you go. Anyone who tells you that aint smart...and that it cant be done...and that it will ruin you and you wont make any money...whatever. I can name you half a dozen guys who prove that wrong.
Stop thinking of yourselves as just 'employees'...'tools' of your client.
You dont adapt to the popular culture:
you DICTATE IT!
Shows in Montreal. Chloe is in Montreal. Chloe has been a huge part of creating the graphic language of Montreal's gig poster scene. This may not work in any other city but that's just fine.
Chloe can do whatever the fuck she wants in Montreal.
"does bon scott really sing "that piss stain wasn't mine" ? its on powerage...just curious."
it's actually "that this neck wasn't mine" in the song "up to my neck in you." this is still my favorite ac dc record.
That true IF you only refer to the stereotype. You can fit a band AND push their imagery forward.
There seems to be this idea perpetuated by experimentalism that anything goes.
Give me EXPLORATORY art any day of the week. Guys like Brian Wilson and The Beatles are exploratory. They can find ways to advance a medium USING the medium.
Anyone can decide to go completely off script and make completely obtuse work and say "well its all subjective" if met with disapproval.
I think thats what youre seeing around here lately with the "doodle" style. You are either just fatigued from seeing artwork all the time and find the primitivism refreshing, or youre so worried about the subjective nature of art that you dont want to be behind the curve at all.
Agian, Im an SP fan, but I find this particular piece self indulgent. Again, if Im wrong, tell me WHY Im wrong.
don't you think something that is used to promote a band should have something that ties it to that band though?
what risingson said, "a piece like this makes me question if the bands themselves are an afterthought to their artistic agenda."
PNE was hired to do this whole series.
We asked if we could invite a few guest artists...our choices.
We chose to ask Seripop.
QOTSA stands behind whatever decision we made.
We chose Seripop cause we anticipated them doing some stuff like this.
We are happy.
As we represent the band in this scenario as 'contractor'...according to some of you, as long as we're happy...thats all that matters.
Personally, I dig it.
For all the resons some of you don't.
You should applaud an artist who tries to force you to come around to their way of thinking, regardless of preconcieved ideas about what a job 'should' look like.
I like the guts. They had to know they'd get this reaction...
"topramen needs to grow a pair and post under his/her own name."
:clap: :clap: :clap:
people don't like it when you say stuff like that, but i totally agree. obviously a regular who doesn't have the 'nads to speak openly.
oh, and center cut bacon has less fat than regular bacon...unfortunately due to lower fat it doesn't get as crispy and comes out more like Canadian bacon, which is not bacon at all, but ham cut into little circles.
here is a comment from someone complete unconnected to this site, but is a QOTSA fan.
Leon Czolgoz tell me something
Leon Czolgoz do you think this fits the band Queens of the Stoneage?
Leon Czolgoz http://www.gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=43102
Lyn looknig now
Lyn you can barely read the writing
Lyn is it seripop?
Leon Czolgoz yeah
Lyn i dunno.. not really. it's more of an art-rock band poster than a QOTSA poster i think
Leon Czolgoz yeah, that's what I think
Lyn i don't really like it
is the problem that the poster doesn't fit the band?
that as you build cred you have more freedom to do what you want without having to justify?
i think the poster is good and think SP's stuff is getting better lately.
Sorry. This doesnt fit at all.
The rationale in the past has been that SP's look was representative of "Noise Rock", which I think is something of a lazy catch-all term anyway.
QOTSA are not noise rock in the slightest, yet the imagery remains the same.
I like that SP's trying to move the art of poster desing forward, and some of their stuff I find incredibly compelling, but (and this is just one man's opinion here - I have to be completely honest) a piece like this makes me question if the bands themselves are an afterthought to their artistic agenda.
Now this is an honest viewpoint. Im not trying to start shit. If Im wrong then show me Im wrong. DOnt just start throwing shit telling me my work sucks or is "boring" or whatever, because I dont consider myself to be a great artist to begin with and that stuff gets us nowhere besides.
But I see work on here all the time that hasnt anything at all to do with the acts they are supposed to represent. And often everyone gets so wrapped up in "brushstrokes" and technique that these issues never REALLY get addressed. And theres definitely a certain cadre of "name" designers that get away with it far more often.
Just because something is different and has never been done before doenst necessarliy make it a good thing.
Again, if Im wrong, then lets discuss that. A flamewar gets us nowhere and if my views are off-base, Id like to know how.
Take "seripop" out of this, and first there would be a 80 post arguement on how this is a seripop rip-off, then just 2-3 posts on how this doesn't fit the band.
Then 9-10 comments on bacon.
Hopefully the bacon talk would be subjective.
I think that seripop is the epitome or self-indulgent crap. They do whatever they want, with no regard to communication, legibility or the band itself. Some people dig it as "different". It take a TRUE designer to communicate. Thats why we do what we do.
And since when did a cock have 4 balls and twist like a roller coaster!
"i thought it was a giant-sperm-snake-monster-red-abstracy-thingy"
it's a visually interesting poster. i don't know dick about quotsa, nor do i particularly care, so...there you go.
i liked the recent seripop poster that seemed to represent an evolution of their style more than this one, but it's all subjective...to each his own...blahblahblah...
fight on...(i like that these nonfights sometimes devolve into an argument about whether it's a fight...which is hilarious.)
Of course it's cool for the band to do a series with a group of artists. ...And who's debating whether or not this is a good ad or will attract people to the show?
"...in this series, the artists are making posters that will appeal to QOTSA fans."
That's a very bold assumption in this case, but I guess we'll find out soon enough. I honestly hope it sells out, and I wouldn't be all that surprised if it did. As a fan of the band myself, I would interpret this as being done by an artist who wasn't all that familiar with their music. Hopefully that won't end up being the popular reaction.
Damn...I can't believe I've rambled on about this for this long. It's not a bad poster. Exit thread.
im a huge fan of qotsa.
in this series, the posters are mostly being made for direct merch. its not about attracting fans to the show, as most shows are probably sold out by now.
its a cool project for the band to directly work with a group of artists to do their merch. VERY COOL.
its about making a print that appeals to the fans. the consumers.
qotsa is trying to make music that fans will dig. and in this series, the artists are making posters that will appeal to QOTSA fans.
yet to be determined what clicks most effectively.
the whole debate is this a good "ad" doesnt really come into play.
its a pretty poster. if i personally think it fits qotsa doesnt matter. im not going to the show and buying merch in montreal.
Colors, composition, style or whatever...Opinions & tastes are going to vary & it's ALL subjective no matter what kind of artwork is being critiqued. How can an official gigposter not be subject to arguably the most RELEVANT of critiques- whether or not it does its job in representing the bands?
Having said that, who decides whether it succeeds or fails in that respect? I'd say the band does- certainly not me or any other artist who may feel one way or the other. I'd say the band's fans might also have a valid opinion on what fits their music.
Personally, I don't think this one is a good fit, but in the long run my opinion is irrelevant. The band is the only entity that Seripop needs to satisfy. I may not be thrilled with this poster, but if it were my gig I'd do it my way too, just as Seripop did.
i should clarify: it doesn't APPEAR to represent the band's aesthetic b/c the band's promo and album art before this doesn't match this aesthetic.
but that doesn't mean there isn't room for a fresh (new) interpretation, such as this.
I wouldn't consider this a fight...it's more along the lines of poster designers having a round table discussion of the most important quesion "WHY". I'm not trying to bring Seria down, I was just wondering how she came to this conslusion. She explained and now we know why.
We don't have to agree with he, and it doesn't mean we have the right to judge how/why she came to this conclusion. But we do have the right to disagree.
Having this discussion makes me much more interested in this poster, I'd actually think about buying it now...just because of today events. As long as seria signs it..."To:Mike Love:Seria"
stylistically, this doesn't represent the band at all, despite the inclusion of some "sperm". the poster depicts the serigraphie populaire aesthetic when given a commission to do a QOTSA gigposter. personally, that's what I like about it. I'm a big believer in bands picking artists for a reason: they evidently wanted to see themselves as seen by serigraphie populaire. so what's the problem?
Quote:"Question for QOTSA fans, would this grab your attention?"
Yeah, undoubtably so, this would grab your attention, and I would walk over to see who was playing, and I would be stoked that Queens were coming to town, but to achieve the same effect as that, you'd just need to type "Queens of the Stoneage are coming to town!" in 72pt font in MS Word. The result would be the same, I would be pleased about the fact they were coming but slightly confused about why the designer/artist has chosen to represent them in that way. A huge pile of steaming shit (which I'm NOT saying this poster is) would grab my attention but wouldn't neccesarily impress me as a poster. I'm sorry, if the band like it then obviously I'm wrong.
Sorry, even after that lengthy (and justified) explanation, as a big Queens fan, I just don't get this poster. Emek is the daddy for Queens posters in my (possibly worthless) opinion. This leaves me cold.
As far as I know we did represent the band in this poster. Looking at their archive on gigposters we noticed we were restrained by three aesthetic choices in term of imagery: some vaguely related sperm reference, a big face with text around it or in it dipicted in a slight psychedelic style, a naked woman or a woman shown preforming some vaguely suggestive action on a random object. oh yeah, also that good old band picture. So since we don't like to work with photos too often and since the general trend followed for desining a poster for this band isn't really our bag, we decided to go abstract. I explain: we wanted to visually express qotsa's sound and visual&sonic presence on stage in this poster. Here's how: first, we were inspired by their slick, but loud, choppy and imposing sound. This influenced the color palette choice (vivid colors=loud, present) as the lettering. This justified the choice of 'condensed' art-deco influenced lettering which, being concentrated at the bottom and because of its elongated quality was meant to impose to the viewer, bring an expression of grandeur. The clean line quality helps to emphasise on this too. the yellow and brown form was inspired by the way the band riffs: a music that is jaggered, but primitive in its tonal quality, which keeps being really slick but menacing despite its clean production . And as for the blue and red organic form , it is meant to link the elements of the poster and also giving some depth to the visual argument that the brown&yellow brings, also it relates to that music video of qotsa I kept seeing on muchmusic when I was on tour a couple weeks ago (the video is all in hig contrasts, with lotsa reds and blacks and white eyes everywhere etc). So we think we did our job, kept our personnality and the band's in the process.
From now on I'm drawing a big abstract cock'n'balls, with illegible hand-done typography, and selecting a bad color palette...this is what make a concert poster ART.
I've seen Chantry design better posters on a 30 year old copy machine with no toner left :mrgreen:
its all about how hard the visual clichés for a certain style have melted your brain together into a fixed shape which unfortunately cannot be mould again.
as if noise rock is the only thing seripop can represent ??? chinese stars, wolf eyes, an anlbatross, loosers, comets on fire, smegma to name a few are all so different to each other and less noiserock than qotsa!
Hmmm. Mixed feelings here. From what I've heard from QOTSA so far, I don't think this represents at all. I rarely give negative crit, & I wouldn't even feel compelled to make such a statement now had I not read Chloe's repeated comments about how the artist's first duty is to represent the band and their music. I think there was a missed opportunity here, since QOTSA isn't in the usual category of noise bands, to prove that Seripop is capable of rising to the occasion and designing outside the familiar style when the client doesn't fit that style. This looks very spontaneous and hastily thrown together without any forethought whatsoever. That's not necessarily a bad thing- it obviously works well on 99% of Seripop's posters. I'd put this one in the 1%.
To their credit though, they got the gig. I think it's fair to say that any band who knows their work would expect a poster coming from Seripop to look like a Seripop poster. Some might even be disappointed if it didn't. Still...first duty...represent the band.
well - my 1 cent.
it SUCKS as a qotsa poster.
as a seripop poster - its par for the course and looks hella cool on its own.
overall - im not moved one bit as far as the show goes.
but thats fine.
i also own a qotsa poster that says BUD LIGHT on it bigger than it says their name..so whatever.
if seripop is gonna do this thing they do - i want to be moved by it. i rarely am. when i AM - its BIG TIME. but again. thats rare.
and YES i know i SUCK as a poster artist/designer so save it.
its a qotsa fans opinion.
topramen, what a lame comment!
dotn you see seripoup is having big fun making these posters and nt trying to wrk to get into the club of posterdesigners which are trying to work all in the same look because they think the look has to be like that and nothing else? well thats lame! (wanting to be part of that klub of postermakers i mean) and off course most of them will defenitely say that theyre trying to do new things and are openminded and what else clichés too, but only as long as the biggest part of the poster stays within the looks how they expect it should be. so when other postermakers are tired of that stale looking cliché stuff and trying to create/combine unexpected things they are allowed to experiment on only a couple of posters and then stop or already reinvent themselves?
i dot think seripop has to reinvent themselves, their work is a constant experiment. so you may not expect that every poster they make should be more reinvented or better than their previous one. if so then see what the rest of the 4000 designers on this site are doing and what has to be reinvented, new creative posters or stale ideas?*
*my english is poop..
serigraphie are one trick ponies. Sorry to say it bros. The "look" was cool for a while, but man, try and mix it up will ya? This whole look is stale. Just like any great band, or in your case, designer, you guys need to reinvent yourselves. Then you will be truely great.
Well people are probably gonna criticize this simply because it looks nothing like any of QOTSA past album covers or posters but that's what I like best about it.
I also really like the row of rectangles and triangles below the queens lettering.