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DESIGNER:
Steve Libbey  
VENUE:
40 Watt
Athens
GA
USA
 
SUBMITTED BY:
Steve Libbey/Fuzzy Empire  
2004-05-09 07:17:59
 
BANDS:
Shut-ups, The
Ms, The
Stand Ins, The



Shut-ups Poster - 40 Watt, Athens - Steve Libbey



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ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   1 more for the road   2004-05-11 21:24:23
EdGossageSend EdGossage a message :   "thats what brian boytano 'd do."   2004-05-11 17:59:51
ajosephbSend ajosephb a message :   I agree with seripop, maxflo, meeloo, and silver..I am kinda sorta seeing what cody is saying, and know for sure than kozik is wrong.   2004-05-11 17:17:41
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   Blue Meridian also invented the Blues.   2004-05-11 16:57:01
thinkmuleSend thinkmule a message :   ahhh...i see..i will wait for the cliff notes version....   2004-05-11 16:51:47
Thee AlexSend Thee Alex a message :   "When Blue Meridian traveled in time, To the year 1953, They surely invented Rock and Roll, And set the people free"   2004-05-11 16:51:38
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Type, computers, band names, hair products... the whole gamut of topics.   2004-05-11 16:50:11
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Quote: "What would Blue Meridian Do, If They were here today? I'm sure they kick an ass or two, that's what Blue Meridian'd do"
Virtual ass. We're not really here. It's just the internet.
  2004-05-11 16:49:36
thinkmuleSend thinkmule a message :   about what?...Type?..I didn't want to read all of it....   2004-05-11 16:48:49
Dance PartySend Dance Party a message :   these arent really comments....they're more like arguements.   2004-05-11 16:48:03
thinkmuleSend thinkmule a message :   mama meeeeyah...that's a lot of comments... :o   2004-05-11 16:47:08
Thee AlexSend Thee Alex a message :   "What would Blue Meridian Do, If They were here today? I'm sure they kick an ass or two, that's what Blue Meridian'd do"
  2004-05-11 16:46:54
Dance PartySend Dance Party a message :   man i dont even know how photo shop works. i quit.   2004-05-11 16:36:39
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Use lots of Photoshop filters along with your gradients. I mean that is the only thing you can really do in Photoshop anyway.   2004-05-11 16:33:38
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   What Would Blue Meridian Do?   2004-05-11 16:27:56
seripopSend seripop a message :   as long as it jars with you image you'll be fine   2004-05-11 16:22:32
Thee AlexSend Thee Alex a message :   I was thinking more Comic Sans with a stylish drop shadow and maybe a gradient fill.   2004-05-11 16:19:26
Cody PomeroySend Cody Pomeroy a message :   make sure you use a lot of Impact.   2004-05-11 16:13:20
Thee AlexSend Thee Alex a message :   "Well, Alex, you need to use computer type on your next poster."
Better fire up Photoshop then ;)
  2004-05-11 16:10:08
uncle charlieSend uncle charlie a message :   I just wanted to ad my comment to rack up the love.   2004-05-11 15:33:08
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Well, Alex, you need to use computer type on your next poster. Then everyone can tell you what an a-hole you are for not doing it by hand. They will call you a sell out for getting all "high tech" and using a computer.
Fucking sell out.
  2004-05-11 15:32:22
Thee AlexSend Thee Alex a message :   Wish I could get this many comments for one of my posters :(   2004-05-11 15:26:01
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   The next person to agree with me is going to be sorry. Very sorry.
I will have my Dragon eat thier lungs.
Although, now that agreeing with me is the cool thing to do I suggest we find a way to out that on a poster. 6 months from 2 out 3 new posters will have agreeing with me ALL over them. It appears I am the new orange, tan, pink, bird, octopus. Only in an ironic sense though. Not for real.
  2004-05-11 15:23:50
bdixSend bdix a message :   I disagree with  ajosephb. :P   2004-05-11 14:58:23
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   I agree with Krispy Kreme, particularly about the dragons.   2004-05-11 14:53:45
ajosephbSend ajosephb a message :   100th comment... I Win   2004-05-11 14:53:30
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   I agree with Maxflo.   2004-05-11 14:33:36
bdixSend bdix a message :   I agree with Clay.   2004-05-11 14:20:28
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   krispy creme stock is getting hammered. they say its because of the low carb thing   2004-05-11 14:19:42
DWITTSend DWITT a message :   I agree with Maxflo.   2004-05-11 14:19:38
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   We have been over this. Never agree with me. I am allways wrong.   2004-05-11 14:14:06
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I agree with MaxFlo   2004-05-11 14:10:31
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   There will be a new keyboard player for every show.
This will be necessary because part of the show (actually, the beginning of the show) the keyboard player will eaten by dragons.
  2004-05-11 13:53:12
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   will there be keyboards in Vomitnator Behemoth?   2004-05-11 13:45:32
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I have no come back for that one Michael. Well played.   2004-05-11 13:36:33
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   There can be nothing ironic about "Vomitnator Behemoth."
They will take your children, eat your lungs and let your blood spill into the cracks of a very dark and scary building.
  2004-05-11 13:27:48
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   how bout "pop will shit himself" for a band name? no?   2004-05-11 13:27:20
standardSend standard a message :   I recommend only using computer text, but then print it out and trace it and scan it back in. Then when designers ask, tell then it's hand computer lettering.   2004-05-11 13:23:23
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Only rename your band "Vomitnator Behemoth" in an ironic way that makes light of a whole entire genre of music though.   2004-05-11 13:18:30
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   And you should consider renaming your band "Vomitnator Behemoth."   2004-05-11 13:13:59
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   Note to self: buy letterpress. And skull.   2004-05-11 13:11:35
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Only use skulls if they dont fit the band though. And never hand draw them. Only old clip art skulls are appropriate.
I would also consider hand drawing the type so it looks like intestines. . Actually strike that. Too creative. You should only ever use a letterpress for your type. If it doesn't look like wood block type the poster is cliche' and lame.
  2004-05-11 13:10:10
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   By contribute, I mean suggest elements, not do actual work on it.   2004-05-11 13:07:04
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   MaxFlo:
The gauntlet has been thrown down! Birds, octopus, decapitated horses, clouds and lightning bolts, in brown, tan, orange and pink. That is the next Shut-Ups poster. Probably not a screen print, since I have a one color press, but I will rock it out.
Anyone else want to contribute to this franken-flyer?
This is much better than flyer-starter.
  2004-05-11 13:06:24
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   You should consider skulls as well.
Always popular.
  2004-05-11 13:04:41
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   You should make all of your poster brown, tan, orange and pink. Sometimes add green. Use birds, octopus, decapitated horses, clouds and lightning bolts as often as possible. Do so with zero regard for what band it is for.
You will be at the top of this scene in no time at all.
  2004-05-11 13:02:55
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   Well, to play devil's advocate, bands are, in themselves, pretty boring subject matter. Seems like everyone looked much cooler back in the 60s when an artist picture was de rigeur. We've been lucky to have good photography done for us, but as you can see, i've used pretty much all the good shots. Some a few times over...though usually that's an Athens vs. Atlanta thing...I can get away with using an image once in each town. Looks less good all on one webpage on GP! ;-)
So, maybe I need to investigate skulls, bunnies and trees more carefully.
  2004-05-11 12:59:34
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   type is more important than the image. we stick by this rule.   2004-05-11 12:33:04
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   "So I have nothing against handdone lettering if it's done well, but I don't often see it done successfully on GP. Mind you, I have been both a designer and musician for over 13 years, and my attitude about lettering on a poster is that it should be easily readable for the casual passerby as well as those who stop to admire it. This, I gather, is not a popular attitude on GP."
Not popular at all. Heaven forbid the type be readable and the style and image match the band in some way.
  2004-05-11 12:31:52
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   The Shut-Ups logo is supposed to look like it is printed on a paper sign he has taped to his keyboard that originally read "This machine kills folk singers." I don't think i captured the perspective properly, and that's why it seems crappily distorted, Meeloo. Back to 2D for me!   2004-05-11 11:24:59
DenisMutterSend DenisMutter a message :   I'm withholding remarks until I see the lightening bolts.
  2004-05-11 11:12:02
MeelooSend Meeloo a message :   typographists are drawing fonts... sometimes they are working for years just to draw one single lettre... and i think that they would not appreciate to see their work distorted like this... i mean, if you want to trash it, do it for really.... does it make sense ?   2004-05-11 11:01:22
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I agree with Shad.   2004-05-11 10:55:00
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   That's my other objection to hand lettering: I know mine will suck even before I start. My handwriting is ghastly enough.   2004-05-11 10:50:21
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Is that it...?   2004-05-11 10:48:36
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   what about the screamers?
i can't hold a writing utensil and make it do what i want to save my life. when i could, i used to hand do type a lot. now, i have to rely on other methods. because i'll spend hours working on it ( because i LIKE GOOD hand lettering ) and in the end, it will fail because it doesn't look good. and that bubble type stuff is played out already, in my opinion. probably makes my stuff 'boring' too. but like i said, people in sudan are starving.
  2004-05-11 10:48:30
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   "ill have to check with some people. but im pretty sure playing keyboards is NOT punk."
What about Suicide or Modern Lovers? But yes, we veer more towards 70s new wavey punk than later hardcore. Kids diggit. But I still want to throw in a cover of "Sailin' On" by the Bad Brains, just to torment the power pop fascists.
  2004-05-11 10:44:06
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   :flirt:   2004-05-11 10:41:03
rockologistSend rockologist a message :   people in sudan are starving.   2004-05-11 10:40:09
ShadSend Shad a message :   I think Cerdo has brought up some valid points.   2004-05-11 10:37:53
John ASend John A a message :   I think Mr Wakeman is OK, but I haven't seen him since "Return of the King" so I'm a bit worried for him and his family.   2004-05-11 10:37:50
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   ill have to check with some people. but im pretty sure playing keyboards is NOT punk.   2004-05-11 10:37:43
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   "Where does one get a sequined robe like that? Did this guy murder Rick Wakeman?"
BTW, it's a silk robe with a grid like pattern that was overemphasized by the high contrast. We wear silk onstage...it's quite comfortable. Is Rick ok?
  2004-05-11 10:36:01
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   fuck i am funny   2004-05-11 10:35:36
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   everybody needs to shut-ups   2004-05-11 10:35:19
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   I'm calling my next poster "Penis Landscape." It's amazing what you can do with a digital camera!   2004-05-11 10:34:54
John ASend John A a message :   Where does one get a sequined robe like that? Did this guy murder Rick Wakeman?   2004-05-11 10:33:42
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   raymond pettibone just emailed me, he likes it.   2004-05-11 10:32:42
John ASend John A a message :   maybe you should all sit back and have a nice tall glass of whogivesaratsass.   2004-05-11 10:31:19
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   Perhaps I need longer burn times. Or less enthusiam with the power washer.
Mmmmmmm....power washer....
  2004-05-11 10:30:20
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I agree with seripop.   2004-05-11 10:29:58
seripopSend seripop a message :   oh and you'd be surprised on the detail you can get screenprinting everything we do is screened on a pretty cruddy homemade set up and we get some crazy fine details   2004-05-11 10:28:02
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   this thread turned wonky.   2004-05-11 10:27:00
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   (man, this thread is like an itchy scab! I think I must be lonely).
Ironically, and backing up Seripop's point, the same day this thread started, someone offered to buy one of my posters that DIDN'T have this color scheme. Course, it was a Von Bondies opening slot we played... could it be...naw.
  2004-05-11 10:25:49
tappin_dilzSend tappin_dilz a message :   Philarts, it's time we had a little chat, see i'm your real father.
  2004-05-11 10:25:10
CCCPSend CCCP a message :   Also, if you weave your own screens from dog hair, you'll get a really authentic look.   2004-05-11 10:24:48
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   thanks, seripop. I appreciate it. These are good points to keep in mind.
I do like my hot pink, though. That doesn't make me...kooky, does it?
  2004-05-11 10:23:31
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :  
"let's evryone just take a breath...... 1......2.........3........"
dont tell me what to do!
  2004-05-11 10:23:03
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   Meeloo and Unitus both have good points, and again I have an urge to clarify. I used to be a teacher, so I think it's ingrained.
I DID distress the rest of this image, so distressed fonts/lettering would look natural here. I didn't do that because I wanted a contrast. I think that's the stiffness the meeloo is seeing, and it is a valid point. The question is, is it effective stiffness (no viagra jokes here...wait...doh!), or does it work against the overall design of the poster.
Another argument against distressed for this one is that I was going to screenprint it, and i am not yet sure on screen burn times, thus I am leery of any font that has small lines. I am taking a crack at burning a screen with a 35 lpi photo today, and we'll see how it goes.
Thanks, guys, I do feel better from getting advice. Sorry if it sounded like I was downplaying it or dissing an entire movement of art.
  2004-05-11 10:21:54
seripopSend seripop a message :   quit giving yourself so many restrictions i think that's the main prob the poster doesn't look like it's for anything INTERESTING it looks corporate and stiff--- i'm sure that's not the impression you wanna give of your band i really don't know WHAT advice to give other than try to loosen up and have some fun i mean you're a local band have fun live a bit while branding on posters might seem like a good idea, one the same demographic sees them over and over with the same elements and often same colors they might just asume the show has already past by confusing the current poster with a similar earlier one.
if you are going for an ealy punk/new wave look maybe you SHOULD run stuff thru a copier and roughe some edges maybe do your cropping with scissors and then scan it in so it looks authentic?
anyways just my opinion your comments really rubbed me the wrong way and obviously i'm not the target audience of this band
  2004-05-11 10:21:17
tappin_dilzSend tappin_dilz a message :   let's evryone just take a breath...... 1......2.........3..........   2004-05-11 10:20:39
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   see? that works. now i like cerdo. :mrgreen:   2004-05-11 10:19:04
ferg2001Send ferg2001 a message :   i want people to be even meaner...   2004-05-11 10:18:41
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I agree with Unitus.   2004-05-11 10:18:27
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   but, i agree. there isn't anything wrong with this poster. do what you think is best for your band.   2004-05-11 10:17:08
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   im not an authority on punk. but im good at repeating shit.   2004-05-11 10:16:58
UnitusSend Unitus a message :   fuzz, some advice was given in the very first comment, where you then referred to the advice given as a "cop out".
if you look at what you have here, a trashy or distressed type woul work better with the image you have (that is trashy and distressed). it would make all of the elements work together.
i got no problem with using the same typeface/colors to establish a "look" for your band. that's marketing.
  2004-05-11 10:15:45
CCCPSend CCCP a message :   Bah. This poster kicks the shit out of 90% of what I see on walls and poles every day.   2004-05-11 10:12:08
standardSend standard a message :   I think this poster is just fine.   2004-05-11 10:11:34
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   punk rock is dead. chantry said so. "
Wattie said "Punk's not dead!" He claims he knows it's not. Has Art heard differently?
  2004-05-11 10:10:47
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   seripop, you are well regarded on this forum for great designs. I am not interested in fighting with you. I'd be very interested to hear some constructive criticism about my work. In what way is it boring? The repetitiveness of the imagery, i.e. the same damn faces in every poster? The re-use of the font?
Seriously, I'd rather get ideas and advice then flames. If there's a way to make these posters better within the restrictions I've given myself, I'd deeply appreciate hearing it.
  2004-05-11 10:09:39
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   punk rock is dead. chantry said so.   2004-05-11 10:07:17
seripopSend seripop a message :   hey if these posters weren't all so boring i'd have no prob with your talk about "cop-outs" branding huh? punk rock.   2004-05-11 10:05:56
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   I also agree with Cerdo.   2004-05-11 10:04:49
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   luna.   2004-05-11 10:03:53
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I agree with you.   2004-05-11 10:03:33
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   Phil: I type fast.
Besides, I didn't expect a blitzkrieg of flames for this poster. Though I guess I should've known that it was verbooten to mention that I wasn't a huge fan of hand lettering. Evidently my badthink also invalidates my designs and the ideas behind them.
You know that one band, the Beatles? How they had a logo with a typeface that was recognizable? Isn't this just a basic design concept for identity design?
Perhaps I should note, to make myself a target even further, that I am also the label owner, the website designer and the rhythm guitarist. So the only posters I do these days are for this one band. There is a deliberate attempt to establish a visual identity for the group, drawing from late 70s/early 80s punk and new wave design styles.
Heaven forfend that someone dare to agree with me on this.
  2004-05-11 10:00:36
TenebriniSend Tenebrini a message :   I agree with you all if it will make you all like me.   2004-05-11 09:50:55
seripopSend seripop a message :   wow so that font is like a comtemporary version of the black flag bars soon kids everywhere will get tatoos of it   2004-05-11 09:48:35
philaarts.comSend philaarts.com a message :   my luna poster took less time than that guy just used to type.   2004-05-11 09:45:37
standardSend standard a message :   Oh man... it's THAT guy again.   2004-05-11 09:43:06
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   So much controversy! I feel special.
Perhaps I should clarify some of my comments so I am not "this guy" forever on GP.
1. I have seen fantastic hand-done lettering. I have seen fantastic computer typeset lettering. I have seen the opposite of each in greater numbers. The fact is that good handdone lettering is extremely difficult, and when you fail to do it right, despite the six hours it took, it doesn't look right. There are even more posters on GP where someone slapped their favorite font on there (plus some lightning, dude!) and hit print. These people make it very hard for digital designers to get respect, especially in an environment like this.
So I have nothing against handdone lettering if it's done well, but I don't often see it done successfully on GP. Mind you, I have been both a designer and musician for over 13 years, and my attitude about lettering on a poster is that it should be easily readable for the casual passerby as well as those who stop to admire it. This, I gather, is not a popular attitude on GP.
I didn't, btw, say it's crap. I do think that some people resort to it because it "automatically" makes it arty. Reading feedback on GP, I see this attitude encouraged. I'd like to see a discourse (and perhaps there's already been one) about how to do hand lettering RIGHT, by one of the pros.
2. This poster was originally designed to be a 2 color silkscreen? Stiff? Perhaps. I was being very cautious about font size, knowing what I could get away with on a screen. I was inspired to get into silkscreening by GP, and now I am getting flak from these same people.
3. "this guy also managed to use the same font for "shut ups" in all of his posters." Wow! I never noticed, except for the fact that "this guy" uses "this font" and "these colors" with pictures of "this band leader" for BRANDING PURPOSES. It is a visual motif that we are setting. I'd love to be able to make some fey picture with trees or teddy bears and slap my latest wacky font discovery on there, with a few colors that appeal to me that week. But I design these posters within very specific limitations...kind of like people who do hand-done lettering. I ALSO like to explore a few "cliches" visually and see what I can get out of them in a new context. It is not easy, and not always successful. But it is far more challenging than having absolute freedom to do anything I want on every poster. I'd like to hear about examples of other designers/artists working with imposed limitations, and the issues they had to overcome.
3. I know I can never please the art school/artist folks who have worked hard to develop skills in the "analog" world. Nor will I ever get their respect, because I don't draw. In fact, I have neither art training nor computer design training. I learnt it all myself because I WANTED TO DO IT. Sort of like in the 80s when we learned three chords so we could play in punk bands. Don't make me suspect there's some kind of "establishment" here that excludes people based solely on their medium choice. That would be a shame.
4. My next poster will have lightning bolts.
  2004-05-11 09:41:00
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Mr. Apparatus, We seem to agree quite often these days it seems.   2004-05-10 16:53:55
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   I think MaxFlo pretty much summed it up.   2004-05-10 16:42:54
heyitsbriggsSend heyitsbriggs a message :   Hand lettering takes way longer, so it's not necessarily a cop-out.. You've got to commit to doing it.   2004-05-10 16:39:53
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   I agree with Mister Fisher.
The end is near.
  2004-05-10 16:34:30
Dance PartySend Dance Party a message :   this guy also managed to use the same font for "shut ups" in all of his posters.   2004-05-10 16:34:09
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   I find a lot of hand lettering to be sloppy . I do feel that old school rub on type looks cool. Cut and paste lettering looks cool as well. I like using computer type. It is convenient and if it is done in a way to fit into the overall design it is a fitting solution. Not trying to argue, just stating my opinion.
The computer is just a tool. If you learn to use it propery, like any other tool, your results should be just fine.
No?
  2004-05-10 16:33:43
seripopSend seripop a message :   i like hobo outline myself   2004-05-10 16:31:12
whiteyhoustonSend whiteyhouston a message :   Comic sans is usually the answer..   2004-05-10 16:29:12
seripopSend seripop a message :   mike is right hand lettering isn't ALWAYS the answer but to say it looks like crap is shitting on the entire history of graphic desing and i gotta say it's pretty darn rare that computer text looks BETTER than properly done hand lettering or photo type setting could look   2004-05-10 16:29:10
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Hand lettering is the answer to everything. Even that whole thing in the "mid-east." If they'd just look to the hand lettering all would be fine.
Without computers there would be no "GRAPHIXX." That is one thing we all know for sure.
If we could not push the "design" button on our keyboards we'd be lost.
  2004-05-10 16:28:15
Dance PartySend Dance Party a message :   i thought design was only possible on the computer....   2004-05-10 16:27:13
dennyschmickleSend dennyschmickle a message :   Um excuse me Mr. Apparatus but you spelled GRAFFIXX wrong. Sorry to nitpick, but I thought you should know.   2004-05-10 16:26:05
MaximumFluorideSend MaximumFluoride a message :   Hand lettering is not allways the answer.   2004-05-10 16:25:33
seripopSend seripop a message :   well aren't computers what design is all about?   2004-05-10 16:24:42
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Saul Bass did not have the proper graphix programs I guess. You need the right programs and a very powerful computer. I'm pretty sure he didn't.   2004-05-10 16:21:44
seripopSend seripop a message :   hand lettring looks so shitty what was saul bass thinking when he did all that cut paper stuff? what a cop out.   2004-05-10 16:19:05
Dance PartySend Dance Party a message :   hand done lettering a cop out?
it also makes me wanna :o
  2004-05-10 16:18:52
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   I think you mean "OHHHHHHHHHH" and "MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM."   2004-05-10 16:17:13
seripopSend seripop a message :   ugh   2004-05-10 16:16:12
Michael ApparatusSend Michael Apparatus a message :   Yeah, with your " I have a harder standard to tackle with computer typesetting" comment makes me want to say you need to work a bit on that type.
But, no one likes talking about type anyway. And the guy on the poster is super cute, so who cares.
Is he wearing a robe?
I hope so.
  2004-05-10 16:13:08
seripopSend seripop a message :   your commets on handlettering looking crappy makes me wanna :o i agree with meeloo this is stiff the weid bend on "shut-ups " looks especially wrong   2004-05-10 16:01:31
fuzzferatuSend fuzzferatu a message :   Thanks for the compliments about the layout. I have never been a big fan of distressed or handdone fonts, actually. Seems like it's a bit of a cop-out design wise...i.e. "this looks crappy because it's supposed to, so I don't have to be held to a standard." Which, of course, means I have a harder standard to tackle with computer typesetting, but I'm used to that.   2004-05-10 15:08:06
MeelooSend Meeloo a message :   ... maybe you shoudn t use a computer to do the fonts.... it s a bit stiff... trash them in a photocopy machine... i like the layout   2004-05-10 13:28:22
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