ok, coming from a person who was walking down the streets and seeing this, this is my interpretation. when I first saw It I knew it had to be a seripop poster. i looked on the back but there was no stamp, so I thought there was an imposter....anyways.
Yes, It caught my attention and I think it is gorgeous but as a show poster, I looked at it for a long time and I still didn't know what it was for. I saw the bands and was interested but I gave up near the end(my girlfriend was getting mad). I didn't realize that there were two shows...
as for constructive criticism from a "bush leager", I think for sure you should have had all the text one direction, instead of making people have to move their heads sideways to the right for some info then to the left for the rest....these breaks in concentration on a poster that is already full of information....too confusing. AND you have to think about how long the average person is willing to study a poster while walking down a street or out of a record store...but I am sure you know that.
now that i know what was up, i wish I had of gone to see the show.
Hey Richie, just read back through this and i'm talking about a different guy (a guy named Guy)
but if you're talking about Scott alcholoocaust, well the the same sentiment applys. Is that who you mean?
I love this poster - I only wish it was about 3 times larger than the stated size.
WAITAMINNIT.... aliens created Star Trek?!?!!!
"The Patterson Film" scared me shitless when I first saw that back in '71 or whenever. (I was 8.)
I have a book of old alchemy lino prints and theres an Illustration of some Jesus figure laying down sleeping and he has a tree for his johnson. I've noticed that seripop also has a similar poster.
I'm not implying that they ripped it off, just that they seem to have tapped into some primitive imagery without trying. Then again...Art has already said that.
The last good book I read was one where they went into Freedom of Info files on UFOs buzzing over gov't bases. Reproduced the actual reports. It just got all new-agey with the Oprahesque abduction crap. Bring on the Space Brothers. The Xists are coming.
you quit on the ufology? it's just getting good again! in the last decade, the latest 'angle' is remote viewing - a spin off of the cia-backed psychic programs. seems as the trainees using the mental projections kept getting stuck in ufo's. turns out the aliens are the ones who created start trek in order to prepare all of us for the 'galactic' commitee to which we are destined for membership! they wouldn't print it if it weren't rue, fella.
right now the 'studies' have swung back to the hardware world and there are great bits and pieces of interesting crap coming out of old government files (our own, old soviet/kgb, and others). stay tuned - the films are great and will be seen at 11...
I remember buying The Demonologist at Fay's Drugs in Lansingburgh, NY when it came out, early '80s maybe? I was way into the occult as a kid, and "forteana" before I knew the term. UFO's? I like the "classic" period before all the abduction nonsense. But Bigfoot's my pet interest of all that stuff, it comes from the '70s thing, it's organic, and it's SORT OF possible. I'll send a video I made, "Best of Bigfoot."
when i was a little kid back in the earky 60's, i found a book in the public library about bigfoot (it was primarily the story about that guy who was kidnapped for weeks by a bigfoot 'family'). it gave me nightmares for months.
it think it was bigffot stories that got me turned on to flying saucer lore. the two areas are so similar that they must have parallel origins.
after i founds ufology, i walked away from bigfoot and never went back.
now, i like ghosts and demons. ever read any or the warrens books? like 'the demonologist'?
they make me giggle with delight...
I posted a similar thing somewhere around here about panic, from Pan, when you're walking in the woods by yourself and you suddenly feel something watching you and you bolt for your life, but you never see anything. Primal.
sometimes i do images on posters from instinct and then what they really actually mean comes to light over the next few months. i've had to have people explain my images to me on several occassions.
we all work using our instincts. and our instincts have real substance that we aren't always aware of.
that's all i'm pointing out.
frankly, an edumacation comes mostly from living and keeping your mind open.
apparently not... cause people can do a poster and the "smart" people like yourself can come in interpret the artwork to fit what you think it is.
maybe seripop was doing the green man concept.. but what do i know, im dumb.
no, not clairvoyant. it's just that these images are part of our shared culture and it goes back millinea. just like something with fangs is 'dangerous' and round is 'good and soft'. green means bounty/money/food/nature and black means night/unknown/evil/fear/death.
you don't have tro be psychic to see that stuff, phill. you just have to have an edumacation. savvy?
i guess after reading this thread of comments, that it's high time to bring up "the green man", and it's importance in earth religions and pagan theosophy. it's an ancient image/icon from teutonic and saxon pre-history and is prevalent in the britisn isles, but is found the world over. it's sort of similar in concept to the corn man or wicker man as a symbol/personification of nature as the provider/devourer. it's the druid symbol of yin/yang. it's good and evil simultaneously. it's an extremely old and powerful image in western culture. seripop is obviously exploiting that idea - and using it very well - whether they realize it or not.
this is a 'green man'. no contest.
it's a good'n.
gun sho - you make very good points. i DID admit i was outta line with my comments though. im not really apologizing for it due to the shit chloe talked in PM and on the comments section however. all i did was get TOO descriptive on why i didnt like it. ever read a bad album review before? did it just say - hey everyone. i dont like this. the end.? i took it too far its true. it WAS my opinion on this particular poster.
raindog- i'm not suggesting that you "don't get" seripop's posters. what i tried to communicate is that, from reading your comments, i believe that you don't understand how other people can be into this when you're not. that in effect is just as bad as not appreciating other people's opinions.
your original comments weren't a reaction to chloe disrepecting you because those comments came before that, it was just reactionary without substance. when you call something an "eyesore" and then precede to dismiss someone's work as something less than childish, it's not much of a critique. it hints at "playa-hating" more than anything else.
i don't think you're too stupid to "get" this poster. it just doesn't serve your taste. there's nothing wrong with disliking something.
it's wacky and fun... me likes it.
if you think this is an eyesore, take another look at the commercial advertising that you're inundated with everytime you leave the house. if i saw this on the street it would be very refreshing (like the smell of freshly cut grass :) i'll be bringin' earplugs to this show! :bang:
"but you're not "getting it" half the time. "
not liking it and not GETTING it are different things gun sho.
yes i may have mispoken and came out a little hard with my comments. nothing chloe hasnt done to nearly every person on here she doesnt personally know. ive seen her attack peoples work with a brutality far worse than my little jokes and she too has done it completely unprovoked.
perhaps now she'll understand. i doubt it. i doubt it because to her - if you dont like it - YOUR AN IDIOT THAT DOESNT UNDERSTAND. that to me seems so foolish. who the fuck is VIEWING the poster? JUST ART SCHOOL STUDENTS? hardly.
when i see someone praising something i really dont like, it prompts me to comment on it myself where otherwise i would have left it alone - i just does. BUT AM I NOT ENTITLED TO THIS OPINION simply because i DONT like it? according to chloe i am not since my work SUCKS and i am a "bush-leaguer". fine. if that is the mentality i am dealing with then i could give a shit if i upset her or anyone else.
so remember - IF YOU DONT LIKE IT YOUR NOT ENTITLED TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
This is actually one very nice mutherfucking scribble and I really mean that.
And since the client dug, being Seripop, then it's most succesful.
It represents the Seriagraphie Populaire aesthetic most perfectly.
raindog- there's an obvious difference between a critique and just trying to push buttons. while insisting how much you "respect" their work, most of the time, you're language indicates a general confusion over why people even like it. in effect, you seem like you can't really form a sold opinion because you want to like their work like so many people do, but you're not "getting it" half the time.
you don't need to reduce their work to the scribblings of a grade-schooler in order to offer a constuctive critique. there are less reactionary methods of discourse that can offer something constructive to the mix rather than stirring up shit.
its actually refreshing to see a poster that doesn't pander to the average dumbed-down schmuck..one that IS purposefully hard to read..the image is strong and weird enough to grab attention and get folk up close to figure it out..worked OK in years gone by when BGP was in full flow..
Hats off to SeriPop on this one..and as usual I will put my money where my mouth is..I assume that gives me the right to comment..
"of course considering this jpeg is like 1/200th of the actual size of the printed poster then MAYBE when u have the huge print in yur face it's actually pretty easy to read.
if you're not blind that is."
you need to consider the average person walking down the street sees it at about this size. i think you know what i mean.
WELL since the show is for our band AND a seripop art show i think we are in the position to make it asa easy or as hard to read as we like.
of course considering this jpeg is like 1/200th of the actual size of the printed poster then MAYBE when u have the huge print in yur face it's actually pretty easy to read.
if you're not blind that is.
I would like to see this in person. I'm pretty sure I think this poster rules. I bet it reads better in person. I absolutely love the illo and colors. This I would definetly hang in my studio. Definetly.
HA! :lol: Nice call Mike. I agree with "Raindog" on this one. Too hard to read, but then again there are people here who feel that actually getting information across is secondary to doing somehting "visually stimulating".
i dont think this is the least bit BAD ASS. i think it's an eyesore. am i alone here. what the fuck is so great about this? its nothing special to me. seri has some AMAZING stuff. this isn't one of em. it hurts my eyes to try and read this thing. perhaps its attractive in person, but....damn. if a 1st grader did this in art class he/she's either flunk out or be sent to the "special" class. i really respect the work seripop has done, but i think i could throw a rock at a telephone pole and hit a more attractive poster.
I've got a friend who gets all hopped up on chatter dust and draws this sort of madness all over the walls of his house, sort of growing, expanding, organic patterns of insanity. I think it features a lot in seripops stuff.
actually we are doing all these 2 show posters lately to lessen our load- when we get 2 request for the same 2 show in 2 diffrent cities and don't have time to do 2 posters we just put the info for both on one.
it's also cool for the promoters cause they split the design fee.