well 8ball - this is getting outta hand. why do you feel the need to do this to all Art's stuff.
yes america is a beautiful place. a place where people like art have the freedom to make posters as bold as this one.
face it - you'd need 8 balls to have the guts to do this. and it couldnt possibly be more eye-catching.
lay - off. move - on.
America. What a beautiful place. It allows all sorts of people to become what GOD destined them to be. Some of us become painters, some of us become doctors, and some of us become bitter. This "astronaut" should learn some respect as the shuttle disaster is not a money-making matter. Top it off with a misprint at a print shop, you have a whole lot of nothing. KUDOS!
brian - if i had gone any further, the coprorate dudes payng me would have backed out. as if was i was paid about $600 to do this, an "extreme" amount of money for me at that time. i was "extreme"ly happy they paid me at all. and frankly, as it was, they didn't get it anyway.
'astronaut' as the ULTIMATE X-TREME SPORT!!! I like it... do you think the kids will go for it? Maybe if we send Fred Durst up in a faulty rocket they'll all jump on the bandwagon.
Do you think you should've gone further to make your point? Or are you happy with the 'gnarly' response?
sorry, i guess "offensive" was the wrong term to use in reference to your comments. however, i was actually TRYING to be OFFENSIVE. you may also notice that the corporate sponsors (at this snoboard coprorate convention of hipsters) are being "jettisoned" from the explosion and (if you follow the big stupid arrow device) falling into "the drink" (which was the name of the club). what has any of this to do with spearhead or the greyboy allstars? absolutely nothing - to this day i've never heard what they sound like. i was aiming this at the ultra-blockhead hipster world of extreme sports. and what could be a more extreme and stupid sport than astronaut?
extreme sports is a classic example of corporate culture creating a fraudulent reality (extreme sports did NOT emerge from our culture, but was actually invented in corporate board rooms to sell products to young 'hip' consumers. i know, i was there in the beginning when K2 "invented" snoboarding.) so, i always look at the marketing of anything associated with that stuff as a sneaky way to call bullshit. the sad thing was that at this convention (held in las vegas - snoboarding capitol of the world), those few who even noticed it, thought it was "awesome, dude".
all the color and stuff was an attempt to make it all look "arty". the xeroxed type was just a convention of the current hip stylings that allowed them to read it and identify with the 'hipness, dude. gnarly". when in rome....
I think I've said this before (maybe that World Trade poster - forgive my memory) but I don't think stuff like this is really a big deal. It made alot of people sad when it happened, and that feeling lingers for alot longer for some people than others. That is not a good reason to not use an image.
This image is not unlike the Hindenburg crashing photo (iconized and over-used) or Titanic references or napalm Vietnam video clips or atomic bomb mushroom clouds over Japan. Those images clearly represent needless and tragic death (often on a much larger scale than a handful of astronauts), but nobody says "boo" about it because the events did not happen in their lifetimes.
i'd be interested to know what michael franti thought of this poster? regarding the other 'challenger' poster... personally, i felt the other one was juvenile and meant only to shock. and not done very intelligently. i don't think this (art's) poster offers an opinion about the disaster one way or the other. it's almost abstracting the image (and it is an interesting enough image to hold it's own out of context).
I like the treatment BTW... very hot
I refer to this previous poster discussion: http://gigposters.com/posters.php?poster=14240#
now this is certainly a better looking poster in my opinion, but I wonder how many people who posted on the previous subject matter saying it was uncool and tasteless will do the same to Art's poster? Either way I still don't think anything is outta bounds, but I wonder if the same backlash will happen.
i've always wanted to use this image, so i finally did. i always thought that disaster was kinda stupid (i mean, they were SPACEMEN. death comes with territory). but for an entire generation this was their vietnam. so, i wanted to laugh at that generation and stuff. yes, i'm mean.
david carson? you mean HE was the guy who invented crummy xeroxed typography? i guess i owe him a deep sincere apology, then.
I LOVE IT. Sweet colors, tasty design... It's like coton candy. Fun and fanciful... It's like... wait.... is that,... oh my god!.. that's terrible! You anti- American Hater Son Of A Bitch!!!............