I don't care enough to say ALL of what I think about this debate, but here's the short story... Poster is pretty cool, okay. The only thing Carlos is guilty of here is doing his thing. One of many guilty artists who have found a comfort zone, and decided not to travel too far from it. Nothing wrong with that, its just not my thing to stay put. If you don't like this poster, then you should maybe try to rip it off for fun - then the defenders here might be dragging you through the mud for ripping off Mr Ruiz. Maybe not, but that would be amusing. P.S. I also like turtles.
I saw that Varmega once at like Wall Of Sound and I have a couple of his posters in my house. I kinda wanted to get a vibe like his for this poster (pacific northwest) but kinda just threw together a bunch of random imagery that I see sometimes in his art and made stuff up and ran them through a bunch of xerox machines (obviously) - I wanted it to kinda look like something like if we collab'd because I love his work. I def didn't rip it off, but maybe it was somewhere in my mind at the time.
Ok. I was not trying to be insulting. My work is simplistic and it gets compared to many other all of the time -- I don't think that's a bad thing. As far as faux-naive, I was referring to a style that is developed outside of traditional artistic exposure, like Howard Finster and how his style has influenced contemporaries like Yee Haw Press. To me, posters like this very much draw upon outsider art (the term I probably should have used) influences and that was all I was trying to express.
from talking to Carlos I think he just takes a bunch of shit to kinkos and makes posters on the spot so I'm not sure he's sitting around looking at gigposters all day. He is like, doing art shit and being super cool by the way.
I totally love carlos stuff, just looks like he took every little bit from the griz poster and doodled onto this one. The mountain w the sun, pizza face, totem pole, kremlin towers, etc. Im not irate, just kinda bummed.